• MNByChoice@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    SELinux has long suffered from usability issues. Many commercial software packages require SELinux be disabled.

    Fix the docs, improve error messages, and create a GUI to improve usage.

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      1 year ago

      afaik yes, at least the arch kernel has selinux enabled, but you need to install the user space tools from the AUR.

    • Sh1nyM3t4l4ss@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I’m not aware of another one. Some other distros like Ubuntu and OpenSUSE ship AppArmor instead, which does similar things but isn’t considered quite as secure.

      I know plenty of other popular distros don’t ship any Mandatory Access Control system at all which seems like a very bad security practice to me. Same thing with Firewalls.

      • Baut [she/her] auf.@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Nitpick: it’s not that AppArmor isn’t as secure, it’s just that SELinux is more powerful. The security always is up to the profiles.
        If you were to compare the policies for Fedora and e.g. Debian, I would assume Fedora has better ones though lol

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          For sure. I believe Debian’s AppArmor integration is a little bit of an afterthought and there’s lots of patches missing as Canonical likes to keep many improvements downstream.

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    1 year ago

    Anyone even slightly interested in this, join!

    Seriously, I didn’t know jack about SELinux before joining the SIG and now I know a little less than jack about it (I tried confining my user and managed to be unable to login to my system)

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        1 year ago

        You can just take a look at the links in the thread if you want to start testing, and can help report issues with your experiences in our Pagure repo, I still need to report mine to mnow if it’s a thing with GDM or if I just did something wrong

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          1 year ago

          Okay. Also how beneficial would this be for my résumé if I’m trying to get into cyber security field?

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    1 year ago

    A bit dated experience, but I wanted to make a ‘simple’ web app (nginx/fpm/psql) SELinux compatible in 2014.

    After reading the docs, it seemed I needed three layers of configuration just to make a policy. For two ports and two folders, that seemed way too complicated and absolutely not worth it.

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    1 year ago

    I love it and it really makes my Desktop more secure. Switching it off, has lead to installing hostile or insecure software within months. When it was introduced, i felt controlled by it, but actually i saw, what a mess came out of it when i disabled that. Today i feel protected, out of eperience, even if i know shirt about how it exacly works, but i saw stupid software harming my system when it was disabled.