• Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
    1122·
    2 years ago

    5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

    • boatswain@infosec.pub
      51·
      2 years ago

      Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that’s already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

  • Izzy@lemmy.ml
    367·
    2 years ago

    Well they banned me for saying I don’t like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.

      • Izzy@lemmy.ml
        82·
        2 years ago

        Every comment is still available to read at the moment. This doesn’t seem like the place for a long and elaborate recap. That’s pretty much what it boils down to though. The irony is that several people harassed me and they are completely fine with that because it supports their biased opinion. If you look through their comment history they are very supportive of this particular piece of software. So anything against this is bad and must be banned. It likely wouldn’t even matter what it is. They just ban first and justify it later and make up some nonsense such as “harassment”.

        The double irony is that they are going to end up harming lemmy.world and possibly do irreparable damage to the lemmyverse long term and then their friend will no longer be able to profit much from ads.

        • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Which app are you referring to? Bluesky?

          Mainly I want to know so I can avoid it, although I’m already avoiding Bluesky.

          • Izzy@lemmy.ml
            82·
            2 years ago

            I don’t think BlueSky has ads. At least not yet. The dispute is mainly around the mobile Lemmy app Sync. Which is a mobile UI for lemmy that inserts ads into Lemmy where there previously were none.

            • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              2 years ago

              Ah right, fair enough. I hadn’t realised Sync was doing that - I’ve been lazy and stuck with Jerboa.

              The website seems to generally be the best way to browse lemmy anyway, particularly with its continued development. Apps quite often dont’ conform to things lemmy does, like automatically making instance agnostic links out of /c/fediverse@lemmy.ml, or the drop down box for typing a username and sending them a mention.

        • SUKKONDIS@lemm.ee
          11·
          2 years ago

          I didn’t see any other moderators come to your defense? There was a moderator from /c/sciencefiction on lemmy world who came out and said you were toxic and the reason why he left.

          • Izzy@lemmy.ml
            22·
            2 years ago

            Which is baffling. I was only ever kind to him. He left because he said he was sick in the hospital and wouldn’t have time to help. I said ok thank you for your time and get well soon. He made up something about me saying something about COVID. Which makes no sense. Nowhere in Lemmy or discord did I ever mention COVID. I can’t understand his agenda for lying here. Maybe he just also wants to be a power mod to abuse it so he needs to brown nose the admins

    • Kayn@dormi.zone
      82·
      2 years ago

      Unless you provide the exact text you were banned for, I’ll be having my doubts.

  • InternetTubes@kbin.social
    0·
    2 years ago

    Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit

    Basically, they don’t even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn’t like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that “users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World.” There’s no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism “disagreeing with the terms of service”.

    Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won’t matter to them.

    • Izzy@lemmy.ml
      1·
      2 years ago

      This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.

      Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.

      • InternetTubes@kbin.social
        0·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, I’m really getting the feeling they are just trying to bury it and ignore it. I was having trouble accessing the modlog, but when I was able to, they seemed to have gone through the effort to eliminate a lot of the entries, which included my account purge, ban, and ban reason it actually does show up if you search for it explicitly. ApparentlyThey still haven’t even bothered to answer the ticket I put up on tickets.mastodon.world, maybe I’ll add a screenshot to that later to show the ticket status and the time it has spent as unanswered. No admin has replied to me directly, and the closest I’ve seen any admin reply on the issue is to criticize the kbin.social instance as reliable because of the criticism they get on them.

        The real problem is this is being done in bad faith, and if that’s their core drive, then the only thing they’ll do in the future is make-up better sounding excuses to cover their asses.

        • Izzy@lemmy.ml
          0·
          2 years ago

          I shouldn’t be surprised that the primary motivating factor of administrators and power mods is to have and abuse power of users. Lemmy just feels like a failed experiment at this point.

          The only thing left here is unoriginal memes. Which can be amusing, but I don’t think it is enough for Lemmy to survive on long term.

          • InternetTubes@kbin.social
            1·
            2 years ago

            Still, just because an experiment doesn’t have the ideal results doesn’t mean it doesn’t get us closer. Unfortunately, if people are going to trust the server with the best marketing instead looking into issues like this, it pretty much makes it impossible to move on because bad faith actors who are best at lying and cutthroat tactics will be the ones to prevail over people questioning what you are telling them without reading the mountains of evidence you are using to back your claims.

            The rot definitely seems too close to the core with lemmy.

      • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        Interesting you only have a problem with this after you got kicked out. Certainly no reason it could be exaggerated or straight up untrue. 🤔

        • SUKKONDIS@lemm.ee
          01·
          2 years ago

          Even his co-moderator from his sciencefiction community called him toxic. I’m sure there’s more to this

    • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      135·
      2 years ago

      Against their political view that racial bigotry discrimination is bad? I sure hope so.

      • Duży Szef [he/him]@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        156·
        2 years ago

        Well they clearly don’t like me saying “From the river to the sea.”

        So are they really against racial bigotry and discrimination?

          • Duży Szef [he/him]@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            92·
            2 years ago

            So will you go from hearsay and idiotic lies or actually engage me or visit lemmygrad for yourself?

            This accusation could’ve been “You’re literally from Poland.”, and it would’ve just as little ground to stand on.

        • PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbtEnglish
          62·
          2 years ago

          Israel and Jews are not the same thing. Israel is a country for the Jews who happen to be racist colonisers. Every ethnic/religious group has racists in it, and the ones stealing homes in Palestine are the racist Jews. Most Jewish people don’t live in Israel, because most of them aren’t racist.

            • PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbtEnglish
              61·
              2 years ago

              Jewish people are not flawless paragons. To portray them as such is to deify and other them, striping them off their humanity. They are human beings, flawed in all the same ways the rest of humanity is flawed. That includes, in many but not all, racism. It’s not antisemitic to say that some are racist. They’re human, and racism is a very human trait. You’re the antisemite. You deny them the flaws of being human, and other them as universally perfect.

    • HardlightCereal@lemmy.ml
      1·
      2 years ago

      Stop harassing me and stop trying to doxx me as this person. You have been harassing me on my posts for months and trying to “out” me as… sigh “drone gender”. Whatever that means.

      • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        12·
        2 years ago

        Definitely still making shit up about people. That’s not what the word doxx means. I don’t even know what you’re talking about with “drone gender”. But you sure do have a lot of attacks against other people. When you’re the one here attacking others. The last time, you accused me of being a chaser. When like, yeah, I prefer T4T relationships as a bisexual trans woman. There’s so much less explaining to do. I think it’s pretty transphobic to then imply I’m a chaser.

        Too bad you can’t manipulate the lemmy.world admins this time into threatening to ban me. Ya know, seen as you’re trashing them in this post.

  • krolden@lemmy.ml
    612·
    2 years ago

    The worst part about lemmy world is that all the tech discussions seemed to have moved there. Granted a lot of them are people who dont RTFM but still its not a good consolidation of discussion.

  • HardlightCereal@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
    1837·
    2 years ago

    The new rules also say you’re not allowed to report content for things that aren’t a violation of the terms of service. So if you report a content for being racist, that’s against the rules.