This could backfire into something Google don’t want: everyone using adblockers.
Imagine everyone installing adblockers just to skip YouTube’s obnoxious ad rolls, just to also block most Internet ads.
Suddenly, having an adblocker becomes mainstream like wearing socks.
You guys are wearing socks?!
I was curious and latest statistics show 43% of users between 16 and 24 use ad blockers. We’re already at bra level of mainstreamyness.
No, it couldn’t. People who didn’t use adblockers aren’t going to suddenly start using them just because YouTube started blocking adblockers. People who didn’t use adblockers aren’t impacted at all, nothing has changed for them.
I don’t see how? This is targeting people already using ad blockers. People not already using them should not see any difference in service so why would they change their behaviour? At most a mild rise of awareness, though I bet most people following these news stories are also already running ad blockers. It is all the other aggressive shit they are doing with ads that will turn people towards ad blockers/premium.
ublock origion, if anyone needs to know which one to use…
unlock origin
I prefer uBlock Origin myself.
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Adnauseam if you want to add a layer of fuck you on top of it.
It doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.
But people who don’t use adblockers aren’t the target if anti adblock stuff in the first place.
It pushed me more towards degoogling. Was already using newpipe on Android and ignoring the YouTube app, and now I’m on freetube on desktop. No need for Google account anymore to look at the feed I want.
Invidious has been a saviour for me on mobile. The ads were so painfully long. To make it worse, I’d use YouTube to help fall asleep, adjust it to the right volume, then BAM! Loud advert. I didn’t use an ad blocker on PC for ages because I get that bandwidth is expensive as hell, but they really started taking the piss and I gave up.
freetube uses Electron = Chromium ;D
At the moment, I am in a hybrid state. I also use Indivious to watch the videos, but I still use the subscription view of YouTube to see what video is new. I have 145 subscriptions. I installed a new addon Redirector, which you can guess what it does, and it redirects each new tab to an Indivious instance if it’s a YouTube video page. So YouTube thinks I stopped watching videos at the moment. Sometimes I forget to middle click instead and get reminded how bad the ads are.
The reason I am doing that is, because I feared Google could delete my account, if I keep blocking ads with uBlock Origin. It probably never happened to anyone, but the uncertainty was too high to risk for me, as I need this account for other things. Also sometimes I want to like or comment on the video too.
You can plop a youtube channel URL into an RSS reader and it’s a valid RSS. You don’t need a Google account in that case, but of course Google could just stop supporting RSS at any point.
That’s interesting! I use RSS (and love it) and never tried this on YouTube. You know what, this is actually amazing! Right now I am visiting some channels which I do not want to miss content on and add as RSS News. Thank you for this!
The day i remove my adblocker is the day… ah who am i kidding, i will never uninstall my adblocker.
t doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.
That’s literally the first thing after I install any new system.
- get firefox on a stick so I don’t have to open deprecated explorer or have to download Edge
- install firefox, get ad blocker extension
- then remove/turn off all the recommended shit that are now embedded to your start menu and task bar and lock screen. (I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds. )
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.
I feel you there. I’m just about at that point, although I also need better support for music software (FL studio, VSTs, etc) and hardware before I can fully switch.
quick google search implies that FL Studio “works flawlessly” on linux through wine (which you also use for video games) 5 years ago already. https://jstaf.github.io/posts/flstudio-on-linux/
I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds.
Dude, thanks for this.
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly
Sooo… today? Sweet! Welcome to the club! :)
Is there a compatibility list and performance difference?
I have games that are not from steam so they will need to be able to run as well.(and games that requires their launcher, like EA/Ubisoft. Oh and some of them have denuvo.)
How about other driver functions(recording game clips, instant replay buffers) that was provided on windows drivers?
I am planning a new build(so many new hardware’s) so if all above are possible and don’t need some arcane knowledge (like suddenly you need to upgrade your libc and install new kernels and fuck around with driver compatibility) then consider me in.
What/where would be the guide and distro to start with?
I’m eagerly awaiting an answer here. Every time I read “Gaming on Linux is already pretty good!” the further instructions read to me like having to write your own game engine (straight up incompatibility of some games aside).
I’m willing to fuck around with Linux on a similar difficulty to tinkering with somewhat hard to install mods or slightly difficult Windows troubleshooting (such as tinkering with individual registry entries or editing .ini files).
I haven’t had a single game that needed editing ini files in ~ a year of gaming on linux. Most of the time it works straight from Steam as you’d expect on Windows. If not it’s usually just checking protondb.com to find out what launch arguments and proton version a steam game needs/works best with.
If a game is not on steam it’s usually easiest to use Lutris to handle the launcher setup as most other launchers like epic and uplay do not run natively on Linux so they need to be launched in the same container as windows games which Lutris fully takes care of.
Note that some games have kernel level anti cheat which will never work on linux. (eg valorant)
Sadly, Fortnite doesn’t run on Linux. EAC has Linux support in general but Epic doesn’t it for Fortnite…
Was one of the first things I tried on my Steamdeck after installing HeroicLauncher. Would have been nice with the gyro.I love Linux but this just isn’t true. There are still quite a few games like PUBG that can’t work thanks to anticheat, which are often the kinds of games I’m less likely to stop playing to switch because I’ve got friends I’d like to play it with
I switched to Linux a year or so ago and kept a Windows partition just in case. I’ve only had to use it once for an online exam.
What games have you played since then? For reference. I go check my most recent played game https://www.protondb.com/app/2009100 and I am not really convinced by the result. And the game I am going to play https://www.protondb.com/app/835960, very mixed results. Consider both are UE5 engine games. I will check back like in a year or 2 once UE5 games runs on proton smoothly I will switch.
Yeah I don’t play any UE5 games. Although it looks like both of those you linked mostly work. If you’re not willing to tweak your proton version or settings every once in a while then Linux probably isn’t for you.
That’s why I say maybe I need to give it a year then visit the protondb again. I am too lazy to tweak those per game or doing all the extra works(some people have their own Custom Proton??) just to play a game. It’s also why sometimes I just buy games on console cause it’s way easier to play game on it. (the suspend feature is a big win, I wish PC game has this as well. )
Custom proton usually means the glorious eggroll version, it’s just a community maintained version you have to install on your own.
The real villainy here is that Google is trying to project this practice as stealing. They have started dictating what you can or can’t do on your system (this has parallels with their crooked WEI efforts).
Just in case you are worried about the moral implications of using ad blockers on YouTube, remember this - they didn’t become the video hosting monopoly by playing fair. They waited till all their competitors were dead, to start demanding money and aggressively pushing ads. If you are worried about the income of the creators, please pay them directly - don’t feed a false ‘dont-be-evil’ corporation.
Some users are even going as far as to switch to a new browser.
As someone who changes browsers regularly on a whim, I love how big of a deal this is to the average person.
Yeah, but I’m sure a lot of people just bought youtube premium. I know my friend did…stupid idiot.
I wonder how business owners feel about their advertisements being weaponized to push people toward subscription plans that eliminate advertisements.
Google doesn’t give a shit what their advertisers think. It’s not a “please buy our ads” situation, it’s a “where else would you advertise online, you stupid fuck?” type of situation.
Google reached that position by keeping the platform pleasant till no one else was left standing. That should be an antitrust activity in any free market. Remember this when you see Google gaslighting you about the moral implications of using adblocks.
People that were running ad blockers were not seeing ads and business owners were not paying for those blocked ads. So I don’t see why they would care at all.
I’ve had YouTube premium from the inception of their subscription model prior to/at the beginning of YouTube red, as I initially had a paid Google music subscription.
Personally, there isn’t a better option for the amount of hassle involved in my opinion. It’s a family account, and managing so many people’s YouTube experiences on at least a dozen different devices would be a nightmare I don’t want to think about. (Multiple of each TV’s, Roku’s, Android phones, iPhones, pc’s, etc)
This isn’t really relevant to your friend, it is quite silly when it’s just one person not willing to do it for just themselves.
Only reason they are seeing so many uninstalls is because ublock origin is the big one that works and that requires uninstalling other blockers to get it to not be detected.
Ublock origin doesn’t track uninstalls but it has gained quite a few users in the last 8 days
vs
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
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Are there any services that provide an alternative to YouTube history? I primarily watch on my Chromecast with Google TV and I haven’t been able to find any
Have you tried Piped? It can be self hosted, but there are also public instances. Features also include Playlists and Feed, probably also History. Maybe you need to create an account for that. Never tried that, because I use it through the Android App LibreTube which also has these features without account.
Thanks. Looks like NewPipe runs on Android TV but isn’t optimized to work with remotes
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I’m shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have seen this coming!?
Well, well, well, Google. I told you.
This is only 20% of our power. We are not even Super Saiyan yet.And equally, Google is yet to use the big guns they have. Don’t get me wrong, I hate Google with a passion, but they have way too much power over the internet for us to leave even a dent on their plans.
They have a lot of power, but that power is tied by goodwill.
Right now they are cashing in all that goodwill with price increases, more onerous privacy invasion and “sponsored” links in lieu of actually accurate search results.
Google: it’s over 9000!
It pushed me to buy grayjay which is allowing me to easily keep up with people off youtube. I just wish that grayjay had a web app.
my problem with grayjay is that it really wants to give me stuff from the trending tab even though it’s supposed to be subscriptions only
