Zoom has never cared about privacy if we’re honest.
But there’s a big difference between not caring about something and actively working against it.
Not really, the former can be just as dangerous as the latter
Always mention Jitsi as an alternative. Mention the problems with zoom. Same with Discord vs Matrix. Most won’t listen, but some will. This is a battle of millimeters, not kilometers.
I have also heard about Keet.
Why don’t ppl talk about revolt, when talking about Discord alternatives?
To be honest I’m just not a big fan of live chat apps in general like Discord. I can see the appeal, but it’s just not for me.
The saccharine colors and emphasis on gamification of the online chat experience always was a little offputting to me personally.
But I always remember that my tastes are kind of the exact opposite…and very old . If I am going to use a chat application, I still prefer IRC using Irssi from a Linux terminal, which is old even by nerd standards.
All that said, I’d say if you ARE going to use pretty much ANY application for any purpose, to always consider what your data is being used for and to try your best to avoid it if you feasibly can.
Discord always struck me as particularly egregious in this regard as it’s kind of obvious the devs don’t care about their users to the point of abuse and I’ve never found forum/chat software to be so complicated and impressive that I don’t think it can be easily replicated… because it can. What makes most social applications good is not all the flash and fancy colors, it’s the community around it…so maybe don’t take that for granted and don’t abuse your users?
You’d think this would be especially apparent now with the recent events with Twitter and Reddit. But people generally turn a blind eye to corruption in favor of convenience and comfort …until they’re abused JUST enough.
Not to circle jerk us all too hard, but I think the reason I like the people on Federated platforms like Mastodon and Lemmy is because I have a good idea as to why they’re here, they don’t put up with abuse because they have too much self respective for that bullshit, and I, in turn, respect them for that.
Say it with me: “Enshittification”
If I didn’t need it for work. I would delete it off my computer. Suck that I’m actually trapped into using it.
Same here. There’s just no way around it for me.
I actually do love my job and my employer, but I’m disgusted by Zoom. Almost every webinar I attend is on Zoom as well.
So…nothing has changed except they have notified people the data they’re already scraping and keeping is now going to be used to train AI too.
Companies decided to outsource everything then are shocked that all their outsourced stuff is being used for the benefit of the companies providing the services.
I’ve promoted for many years the idea that companies need their own competence but Theres a similar argument to be made for having their own infrastructure as well.
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Zoom has e2ee but needs to be enabled
