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      Lots of things would be great to have done in the past. The best we can do now is today.

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      Plus, current climate change has seen a velocity across a mere century that prior events took tens of thousands of years to achieve.

      This imparts an “inertia” to our current climate that - even if we stopped on a dime, right now - will lead to conditions that may have most of the planet outside of the polar regions as being uninhabitable year-round due to chaotic weather and lethally high wet bulb temperatures that AC is simply unable to handle.

      And if we don’t stop; if we continue on our “business as usual” path for another 10 or 20 or 30 years, said inertia could conceivably push the entire planet over into a full-blown Venus Scenario, wiping all life from the face of the planet.

      Warming trails CO2 by 15-20 years. We are now seeing the 1.5℃ of warming of 2003, when Windows XP was released. If we hit CO2 levels that predict 5℃ of warming, humanity has essentially dug its own grave, the planet will (once warming catches up) no longer have any carrying capacity for us to survive in sufficient numbers. If we hit CO2 levels that predict 8-10℃, we run a non-trivial possibility of a tip-over into a Venus Scenario.

      Prior events took many tens to hundreds of thousands of years, allowing entire ecosystems to migrate to and from the poles. This allowed the biosphere to “put the brakes on” warming itself because they never stopped being robust sequesters of CO2.

      We don’t have that in play, here. Entire ecosystems will die in-place because they simply don’t have the time to migrate. We will see extinctions on a scale never before seen in the geological record. And the very robust biosphere that saved the planet in prior warming events will be commensurately weakened in this one, likely to the point where it cannot effectively sequester sufficient CO2 to stop the warming.

      TL;DR: as a species, the likelihood that we are all endlings is uncomfortably high. Humanity may not see the year 2100, and will most likely not see the year 2200.

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      running AC all day like a bunch of pussies 😂

      Hmmm… Maybe there’s something to that unnecessarily crass comment… * turns off AC *

      That’s not so ba-

      * dies in Texas heat *

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          Fascinating! Which parts? My wife and her family are from India and complain about the Texas heat, even sometimes getting sick from heat exhaustion.

          Also, one of my previous employers had frequent visits from reps from India and Africa. The three main comments they all had in common were

          • that they were impressed how easily accessible the airport is in a city of 2.5 million people
          • how unbearable the heat is and asking how we deal with such horrible heat
          • how funny the ridiculously huge pair of boots in front of the mall across the highway from the office were

          Oddly, none of them showed any interest in our genitalia, but you’re probably right: they probably just discussed it amongst themselves in private.

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    … Why wait until 11 fucking years from now, UK? I feel like 5 would’ve been attainable and make so much more of a difference.

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    The idea of climate change violates scripture of all three Abrahamic faiths. So the truly faithful will reject the idea of climate change wherever it is mentioned on ideology alone.

    The science of climate change has also been adopted by “the left”, so the political right must stridently oppose its existence it wherever it is mentioned, on principle alone.

    That’s a majority of the population, right there, that will openly reject climate change in every way right up until it starves or kills them.

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        unfortunately sabilising global temperatures within the next century is a monumental challenge. One that capitalism simply won’t allow. i applaud your optimism, but it’s just realistically not going to happen.

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          I don’t know that we’ll succeed, but I’m going to do my best to make it happen.

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            it’s realism, not defeatist. i personally do everyting i can to mitigate climate change within my realm of influence. Eg, i drive an EV, which is powered by solar power, i don’t use gas or petrol, i don’t eat meat, i buy second hand clothing. I grow what i can and compost all my food waste. I walk as much as i can. I educate those i can to try and do similar things. I just know in my heart we’re not going to succeed, because greed and indifference will ultimately be our downfall.