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      That strongly feels like the tone of those “sovereign citizens”, feels as legally flimsy as a soap bubble

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        Well sovereign citizen argument is just plain stupid; “I live on your soil but your laws don’t apply to me because I say so.”

        Here, youtube is claiming something specific (that Invidious violates a TOS agreement which Invidious agreed to) which is verifiably false - Invidious never agreed to the TOS for the API, and doesn’t have to, because Invidious doesn’t use the API. Invidious works by communicating with YouTube and scraping data from the responses. There’s legal precedent that this is legal (although, LinkedIn’s ongoing battle with HiQ may overturn that precedent, but it hasn’t yet). That’s one of the reasons that most services like youtube offer an affordable API in the first place - 3rd party tools using web scraping is much more expensive for them.

        YouTube could still potentially legally force them to stop by changing the TOS of the service itself, but there could be other implications of that, so we’ll see what happens. As FOSS, it’s unclear what they would even do, there are hundreds of hosts.

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          That explanation is the most amount of nonsense I’ve read in a long time. The amount of mental gymnastics you need to non-ironically believe that is just unbelievable

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      That’s what I wonder as well. Probably they’ll be satisfied with bringing down the Invidious project website, including their documentation and installation files.

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    Yeah that’s probably not gonna happen, they have communicated that they won’t give up without a fight.

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    Why are all websites trying to lock down users own content? First with Twitter, then Reddit, and now Youtube…

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      Rising interest rates (among other factors) are causing investors to pull out. Since these websites have always relied on investors they never had to be profitable until now.

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    Lmao good luck, google.

    Between piped, invidious, and all their alternatives+instances there’s no way they can win this fight. Hydra will prevail.