I hope they bring the Fairphone 5 to the US in a reasonable amount of time, because the 4 is just too old for the price being charged.
Why did they bring the Fairphone 4, but not the Fairphone 5?
There is no Fairphone 5 released yet in any regions.
The fairphone 5 isn’t out yet
I’d buy this in an instant if they would have included a headphone jack. What an idiotic design choice to make especially on a device like this
Just to clarify, this is about the 2019 model Fairphone 3, which does have a headphone jack.
The Fairphone 3 still had one.
Honestly, the headphone jack days are gone and there’s not a lot we can do about it.
And honestly? Wireless Bluetooth headphones/earbuds are good enough now that I don’t see a need for wired ones though so I don’t see what the issue ism
I’m glad that it works for you. Doesn’t work for everyone, unfortunately. There are still a few brands out there that release new phones with the jack. Supporting them demonstrates that there’s still a market out there. I find Bluetooth buds, even the great ones, a frustrating enough experience that I don’t want to rely on ONLY that for music listening.
Same thing with small phones; there aren’t many out there, but I show my support where I can. I may not be the majority but I think the jack is a large enough “niche” that it will absolutely be out there for a long time. In fact I suspect as people get tired of the $200/year (for good bluetooth buds) hamster wheel the jack will actually increase in popularity. But it takes time for all of those bluetooth buds to break down on people, and for people to decide that enough is enough.
Fair enough. I’ve only ever bought one pair of wireless earbuds though that I got around 3-4 years ago so I didn’t realize it was common to have to buy new ones frequently.
I hate the fact that so many manufacturers removed it that I refuse to buy a device like that purely out of principle.
My current device has a user removable battery aswell and seems like EU is going to make it mandatory for new devices so my next device will probably have it too. I can imagine someone saying the same thing about removable battery that you’re now saying about the headphone jack. Time will tell.
I use my headphones on multiple devices. Pairing them every time I want to switch is a pain in the ass. Also, my current headphones are still good and will hopefully last for a very long time, as I specifically went after headphones that are study, easy to maintain, and repair. So I have no need for Bluetooth headphones, and I have no desire for Bluetooth headphones. I just want a jack to plug in.
What headphones are they? Can they not just pair to multiple devices? I have mine hooked up to my two laptops and my phone, and they just automatically connect to whatever one I’m using (unless I’m using both in which case I just have to toggle it on the second device if I want).
Sorry, to be clear, they’re not Bluetooth. I’ve got a set of Meze 99 Neos. I’ve got my desktop, laptop, phone, and Steam Deck that I use them on regularly. I’ve had Bluetooth headphones in the past and I’ve never had one that can pair to 4 things, not to mention trying to get it to connect to the right one when more than one has power is annoying.
These ones are also sturdy, easy to repair, and use a standard 2.5mm to 3.5mm connection. There’s no battery to wear out and no electronics of any kind to fail. So long as I don’t physically break them, I expect them to keep working for many years to come. There’s no wireless headphones I’m aware of and certainly no wireless earbuds that I can say that about. I have no interest in buying devices designed to be consumed and discarded past a certain date.
7 years. Wtf!!!
This is the way! Hope competition does its thing and others will follow. Today’s phones have great hardware. If apps and android releases in the future won’t require much more power for no reason, I can see sticking to phones for that long.
wen fairphone 5?
I got few years left on my current devices but ready for the switch
If I check phones released 7 years old … I do not to use them today. Even if updates would be provided.
Why not? If the phone is physically still functional, and receives software updates, why does it matter if its 7 years old?
I need good pictures for my job. I have an s22 because the wide angle camera is incredibly useful, and I need a stylus from time to time (also for my job).
However, barring a huge leap in wide angle camera, a sharp drop in performance/battery life, I’ll run my s22 for as long as it lasts.
If a fairphone with the functionality I need becomes available (in Canada) sometime between now and when I need a new device, I’ll switch in a heartbeat.
Oh it’s absolutely understandable why a good camera (and subsequently a good screen to view pictures on) would matter to some.
It just doesn’t to me, at all, and so it’s not even the first thing that comes to mind when I think about a phone. I don’t like tablet-sized phones because I don’t use it all that much and when I do, there’s no added benefit of a larger screen over a middle-sized screen (or some higher-resolution display). I don’t use the camera at all, and so its quality doesn’t matter to me. I don’t use a stylus because I’d rather use a pen and notepad.
I’m not criticizing someone wanting those features, I just sometimes need to be told what features are important to other people.
It will be slow (new soft targets relatedly new he) Many technology improve noticeably on this time frame, für ne camera is important. 5 yars for a top spec phone is the limit for me.
I’m currently using a Oneplus 5T. Released in 2017. Slapped LineageOS on it, and that bad boy is still my daily driver and one of my most prized possessions. I dread the day when it will break, but it’s not yet showing any signs of weakness
I’m also using a OnePlus 5T (with LineageOS from day 1), and plan to replace it with a Fairphone should it die and there’s a good model available with US bands. I’m fine with importing the newest Fairphone should it release by that time, but the Fairphone 4 is also available directly in the US as well.
I think what’s impressive here is the first party, OEM support for feature updates on Android lasting as long as it has for this phone. That’s really not something you tend to see even on Google’s flagships (though security updates are still regular and better than what the Fairphone sees officially).
IMO, smartphones have basically plateaued in the past at least five years - a flagship model from 2015 should be sufficient for basic usage today, assuming the battery and modem hardware was somehow kept up to date and software updates were provided as well, and flagship models from like 2018 onwards were a better deal than today’s flagships, providing comparable real-world functionality at a lower price even if the spec sheet pales by comparison. I don’t think most other OEMs have the incentives to provide that kind of long-term support on older but still usable hardware, but Fairphone absolutely is.
with LineageOS from day 1
Same here! I had been living with degoogled ROMs since 2013-ish and I bought the OP5T with the specific intention of using Lineage from day 1.
Nowadays I struggle to find a potential successor: I need a headphone jack (so no Fairphone, unfortunately) and that makes it waaay more difficult. Sony Xperias are probably my best shot
I would really like to have a headphone jack but the other benefits the Fairphone brings (longevity, easily replaceable parts, more effort on ethically sourcing components than pretty much any other manufacturer) allow me to begrudgingly make that tradeoff and just have a dongle permanently occupying space in my pocket.
I recently gave up my 6t for a Pixel7 and it was the worst decision I’d made in awhile. I miss it so much, but the newer OP phones just aren’t any good from what I’ve been reading.
Nokia 6.1 from 2018 with LineageOS. Good phone still.
My phone is 4 years old and still going strong. I can easily see myself using this for another 2-3 years.
Why?
Many things are improved since then. For example cameras.
New os and new apps are done consider relatedly me hw, thew will not work great on an so old one (which was not the absolute top at the release date). I can imagine 5 years, not not 7 die my self.
Most 7 year old phones have more features that modern ones
Well, 7 yaars old fair phone 2 has 2gb of memory and 32 GB of storage. Not enough for my usecases in 2023. Not diving in microusb, BT 4.0, 2420mAh battery and other things.
I said more features. Such as removable battery, headphone jack, ir blaster, fm radio, SD card slot, notification led etc.
Ah sorry. Yes, if FM radio is more important than ram - this is a benefit.
Yeah because the only way to fit more RAM is to remove other usefull features instead of including both.
Why am I ever replying…
🙂 I do not know.
