Alright let’s entertain this; how long do you think it would take for an individual to land an apprenticeship in a trade? Keeping in mind these are usually very competitive beyond even my own country and limited in number even if you went across all the trades in your area. How about the hundreds of even thousands of people in your area do the same?
You can keep saying this misleading statement to me all you want, but it does not change reality.
Licensure is not free at least here in the US nor are the materials to acquire it. The cost is not just getting into the job though, you have to consider the cost of leaving a job that could have been better paying that maybe no longer exists. Someone with a family that just is not a real option. Now apply this “just go into a trade” logic to everyone who has lost their jobs or wants to have something better than they currently do and you’ll run out of trade jobs very fast. Same problem as today but different lens. Then what?
Fully agree here. They were not in good faith, and made a lot of assumptions with little articulation. Their argument works well for a single individual in a vacuum but you apply that to everyone with job loss and it falls apart. Thank you for your statement.
I will admit I do not work in trades so I won’t pretend to, but I am aware of licensure and unions. To this you are correct they are a great strength and benefit to these fields and jobs that have really helped these individuals retain their jobs and skills. With robotics and AI specifically no they cannot replace these individuals currently; however, there has been a push to deregulate which would not overnight ruin these careers but it will encroach. We can see an example of this in Texas where they removed the requirement of bar exam for legal jobs, and we have seen more of a push to use non traditional means in this position. So while I agree these jobs have some current protection it may be only temporary if these are the same people who are willing to trash other career fields over automation. We do have a bit of a gray area though around the remote form of robotics that are controlled by a human possibly even one with licensure.
I have however work in robotics. Most robots are exactly as you say in a factory and not really that capable, but this is very rapidly changing as we create robots more and more capable of general tasks and dexterity. The robots that I have seen designed specifically for HVAC jobs are not particularly great yet compared to their human counterparts are very skilled at the few things they can currently do and I’m not talking about like ones in a factory I’m talking about ones deployed on a home call to work on someone’s air-conditioning system. These are the ones that I am concerned about, and for those that aren’t you will be. It very well could be long in the future but companies are taking steps to do this as soon as they can and it spreads so far beyond just trade jobs.
The current state of AI as LLMs is pretty low risk as far as I am concerned for any skilled worker. Won’t change any time soon either, but we know why they are doing this. Our corporations have exposed their true end motives. They full and well would rid themselves of every employee if they could. None of us know what the future is going to look like, but thinking it’s not going to spread beyond software or unskilled work is not going to end well. What starts as the incapable robot in a factory iteration after iteration is suddenly capable. We now have the tech to make these a reality where even half a decade before we did not. The only hurdle is the legal side of things to which we see movement to dismantle even if only a little at a time. Most people seem concerned about full on automation/AI but that’s not the near term threat. It’s remote physical labor. Again look at the medical field and 7/11 using robots to restock their shelves. Neither of those are AI, but are taking jobs from the US annually. One at a time step by step headcounts are reduced. This won’t be a sudden torrent, but a trickle.
I agree that there are jobs and have been jobs for trade and non trade jobs yes. In terms of numbers Ai has not taken jobs from anyone, but rather has been used as reason for layoffs as it sounds better than financial woes in these organizations. This is also supported by research/data. The current number of jobs is also consistent with what they were pre COVID inflation.
Again yes I am concerned about what is coming because I am a forward thinking person. I make plans because hopping fields is expensive to do. I am not sure why this is such a surprise for you? I am not sure how I was being negative about the trades at all. I’m just saying it’s not a silver bullet to the upcoming career crisis if we are to believe AI is actually a threat. What may be a concern for some fields now it’s only going to either broaden directly because of that same threat or because of oversaturation as those who were once in their own careers no longer can and look for work elsewhere that had not yet had the rug pulled out from under them. You can chose to ignore that I am saying and that’s fine, but sticking your head in the sand doesn’t stop this from approaching.
Yes generally I think about long term viability to a field. I plan to still be here in 10 years. Although I added that statement to be less alarmist. Those robots exist today. Go ahead and enjoy the competition of everyone flowing into trades though. Will be the same disaster facing college graduates today in less than 4 years.
Unfortunately not true. Maybe not in the next let’s say decade, but there are companies currently producing robots that can do HVAC work for example, but the larger risk is remote control robotics to employ someone from a far cheaper country. This has started taking over medical already and will come for other fields before the AI risk will.
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You mean universal billionaire income right? Think of the poor billionaires.
Why does this even exist? Just configure DNS or child block.
They did in fact a few years ago silently remove it
I never thought about it until this post. Honestly so refreshing and I’m at peace.
I wanna be that rich one day
I need to watch this
Absolutely, but you’ll have to help me tend to the yaks, and hike through the mountains every so often to forage for food and set up new sensors. :)
7 months ago I quit my job for this reason. I thought long and hard about it even bought a ranch. I have joined another team, but one that is pretty critical of ai. They aren’t anti ai, but using it needs to have good reason. I figure this is my last bastion and I’ll ride this.
I have doubts that it’s because no one buys them but rather that they do not make enough money from new IP as consistently when all they churn out is safe choice shovelware.
They do seem rather eager to screw us over by any means necessary as soon as they can. Damn the repercussions and economic fallout it would bring. That’s tomorrow’s, and someone else’s problem.