I make and sell BusKill laptop kill cords. Monero is accepted.
The Wordpress Activity Pub plugin is on my TODO list. I opened some bug reports with them recently.
what happens if I die? what happens if my site goes down? what happens if a site is “protected” by cloudflare (and therefore makes the content inaccessible to at-risk folks)? what happens if a site has an authwall (and therefore is inaccessible to less-privileged folks)?
I think it’s important for us to federate content, not just links.
it’s a lot of work, but basically I copy the html from wordpress into pandoc, convert it to markdown, and then do a lot of cleanup
I didn’t copy the whole post here because it’s so much work, but I usually do when there’s less images and my articles aren’t likely to exceed the max char limit :)
o hai. Curious that you expected a bunch of people to support you within a couple days. I never saw your proposal (buried in a comment thread in one post on lemmy). I’m only first hearing of this 6 hours after you specifically tagged me. I think you could do more to publish & advocate your proposals if you’re serious about them…
Before the incident described in the article you’re referencing, I had never spoken to any instance admins. Since I published it, I have spoken to several instance admins (many reached out to me), and they all expressed similar frustrations with the lemmy devs and fatigue in contributing to this project.
No matter how much people will tell you that something is important to them, the true test is seeing how many are willing to pay the asking price.
I think it’s important to consider that there’s many ways that people contribute to Lemmy. Equally as important as the work that the devs are doing is the work that the instance admins are doing. Collectively the community of instance admins are contributing much more money and time into lemmy than the developers are. That shouldn’t be discounted. Both should be appreciated.
There are other ways that people take time out of their lives to support Lemmy, such as finding and filing bug reports, writing documentation, answering questions about the fediverse to new users, raising awareness about lemmy on other centralized platforms, etc. These are also all contributions that benefits the project. Don’t discount them.
But when our contributions are met with disrespect, it pushes us away. Based on my conversations with countless Lemmy contributors in the past few days, that’s where a lot of people are. They don’t want to invest any more time or money into Lemmy because of their previous interactions with the Lemmy devs.
This can be repaired, but the Lemmy devs do need to work on fixing their Image Problem.
Can you mention this in your article?
Personally I wouldn’t run a lemmy instance because of this (and also many other concerns)
I recommend [a] letting the lemmy devs know (eg on GitHub) that this issue is preventing you from running a lemmy instance and [b] donating to alternative projects that actually care about data privacy rights.
The fines usually are a percent of revenue or millions of Euros, whichever is higher.
So if your revenue is 0 EUR then they can fine you the millions of Euros instead. The point of the “percent of revenue” alternative was for larger corporations that can get fined tens or hundreds of millions of Euros (or, as it happened to Meta, in some cases – billions of Euros for a single GDPR violation).
The fines usually are a percent of revenue or millions of Euros, whichever is higher.
So if your revenue is 0 EUR then they can fine you the millions of Euros instead. The point of the “percent of revenue” alternative was for larger corporations that can get fined tens or hundreds of millions of Euros (or, as it happened to Meta, in some cases – billions of Euros for a single GDPR violation).
That would be true if their instance wasn’t federating. If the instance is federating, then it’s downloading content from other users, even if the user isn’t registered on the instance. And that content is publicly available.
So if someone discovers their content on their instance and sends them a GDPR request (eg Erasure), then they are legally required to process it.
It’s definitely not impossible to contact all instances; it’s a finite list. But we should have a tool to make this easier. Something that can take a given username or post, do a search, find out all the instances that it federated-to, get the contact for all of those instances, and then send-out a formal “GDPR Erasure Request” to all of the relevant admins.
Did you read the article and the feedback that you’ve received from your other users?
Any FOSS platform has capacity issues. I run my own FOSS projects with zero grant funds and where I’m the only developer. I understand this issue.
What we’re talking about here is prioritization. My point is that you should not prioritize “new features” when existing features are a legal, moral, and grave financial risk to your community. And this isn’t just “my priority” – it’s clearly been shown that this is the desired priority of your community.
Please prioritize your GDPR issues.
Very nice. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like Boost is available on F-Droid.
Fortunately, in my case, my image was “orphaned” and never actually attached to a post or comment, so it wouldn’t have federated.
If the image has already federated then that’s a whole next level problem :(
Unfortunately, the Lemmy devs literally said it would take years to fix this issue. If you think this should be a priority for them, please advocate for them to prioritize it on GitHub:
Hi, unfortunate author here 😅
The issue happened in Jerboa. I opened a few tickets in the Jerboa app’s GitHub to address this:
Can you please tell us which Lemmy client apps you use that store the delete token and have a UI to delete uploaded images?
This is a big problem. At the time of writing:
pict-rs is a third-party simple image hosting service that runs along-side Lemmy for instances that allow users to upload media.
At the time of writing, there is no WUI for admins to find and delete images. You have to manually query the pict-rs database and execute an API call from the command-line. Worse: Lemmy has no documentation telling instance admins how to delete images 🤦
For the purposes of this example, let's assume you're trying to delete the following image
https://monero.town/pictrs/image/001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp
There are two API endpoints in pict-rs that can be used to delete an image
This API call is publicly-accessible, but it first requires you to
obtain the image's `delete_token
`
The `delete_token
` is first returned by Lemmy when POSTing to the
`/pictrs/image
` endpoint
{
"msg":"ok",
"files":[
{
"file":"001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp",
"delete_token":"d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381"
}
]
}
Two pieces of information are returned here:
Of course, if you didn't capture this image's `delete_token
` at
upload-time, then you must fetch it from the postgres DB.
First, open a shell on your running postgres container. If you installed
Lemmy with docker compose, use `docker compose ps
` to get the
"SERVICE" name of your postgres host, and then enter it with
`docker exec
`
docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}"
docker compose exec <docker_service_name> /bin/bash
For example:
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}"
SERVICE IMAGE NAME
lemmy dessalines/lemmy:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-1
lemmy-ui dessalines/lemmy-ui:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-ui-1
pictrs docker.io/asonix/pictrs:0.5.4 lemmy-pictrs-1
postfix docker.io/mwader/postfix-relay lemmy-postfix-1
postgres docker.io/postgres:15-alpine lemmy-postgres-1
proxy docker.io/library/nginx lemmy-proxy-1
user@host:/home/user/lemmy#
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose exec postgres /bin/bash
postgres:/#
Connect to the database as the `lemmy
` user
psql -U lemmy
For example
postgres:/# psql -U lemmy
psql (15.5)
Type "help" for help.
lemmy=#
Query for the image by the "alias" (the filename)
select * from image_upload where pictrs_alias = '<image_filename>';
For example
lemmy=# select * from image_upload where pictrs_alias = '001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp';
local_user_id | pictrs_alias | pictrs_delete_token | published
---------------+--------------+---------------------+-----------
1149 | 001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp | d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381 | 2024-02-07 11:10:17.158741+00
(1 row)
lemmy=#
Now, take the `pictrs_delete_token
` from the above output, and use
it to delete the image.
The following command should be able to be run on any computer connected to the internet.
curl -i "https://<instance_domain>/pictrs/image/delete/<pictrs_delete_token>/<image_filename>"
For example:
user@disp9140:~$ curl -i "https://monero.town/pictrs/image/delete/d88b7f32-a56f-4679-bd93-4f334764d381/001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp"
HTTP/2 204 No Content
server: nginx
date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 15:37:48 GMT
vary: Origin, Access-Control-Request-Method, Access-Control-Request-Headers
cache-control: private
referrer-policy: same-origin
x-content-type-options: nosniff
x-frame-options: DENY
x-xss-protection: 1; mode=block
X-Firefox-Spdy: h2
user@disp9140:~$
ⓘ Note: If you get an `
incorrect_login
` error, then try [a] logging into the instance in your web browser and then [b] pasting the "https://<instance_domain>/pictrs/image/delete/<pictrs_delete_token>/<image_filename>
" URL into your web browser.
The image should be deleted.
Alternatively, you could execute the deletion directly inside the pictrs
container. This eliminates the need to fetch the `delete_token
`.
First, open a shell on your running `pictrs
` container. If you
installed Lemmy with docker compose, use `docker compose ps
` to get
the "SERVICE" name of your postgres host, and then enter it with
`docker exec
`
docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}"
docker compose exec <docker_service_name> /bin/sh
For example:
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose ps --format "table {{.Service}}\t{{.Image}}\t{{.Name}}"
SERVICE IMAGE NAME
lemmy dessalines/lemmy:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-1
lemmy-ui dessalines/lemmy-ui:0.19.3 lemmy-lemmy-ui-1
pictrs docker.io/asonix/pictrs:0.5.4 lemmy-pictrs-1
postfix docker.io/mwader/postfix-relay lemmy-postfix-1
postgres docker.io/postgres:15-alpine lemmy-postgres-1
proxy docker.io/library/nginx lemmy-proxy-1
user@host:/home/user/lemmy#
user@host:/home/user/lemmy# docker compose exec pictrs /bin/sh
~ $
Execute the following command inside the `pictrs
` container.
wget --server-response --post-data "" --header "X-Api-Token: ${PICTRS__SERVER__API_KEY}" "http://127.0.0.1:8080/internal/purge?alias=<image_filename>"
For example:
~ $ wget --server-response --post-data "" --header "X-Api-Token: ${PICTRS__SERVER__API_KEY}" "http://127.0.0.1:8080/internal/purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp"
Connecting to 127.0.0.1:8080 (127.0.0.1:8080)
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
content-length: 67
connection: close
content-type: application/json
date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:56:24 GMT
saving to 'purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp'
purge?alias=001665df 100% |*****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************| 67 0:00:00 ETA
'purge?alias=001665df-3b25-415f-8a59-3d836bb68dd1.webp' saved
~ $
ⓘ Note: There's an error in the pict-rs reference documentation. It says you can POST to `/internal/delete`, but that just returns
404 Not Found
.
The image should be deleted
Unfortunately, it seems that the Lemmy develoeprs are not taking these moral and legal (GDPR) risks seriously (they said it may take years before they address them), and they threatened to ban me for trying to highlight the severity of this risk, get them to tag GDPR-related bugs, and to prioritize them.
If GDPR-compliance is important to you on the fediverse, then please provide feedback to the Lemmy developers in the GitHub links above.
This comment was copied from the following article: Nightmare on Lemmy Street (A Fediverse GDPR Horror Story)
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This seems to suggest that you have to get it from lemmy when you first uploaded the image
Thanks, but I’m asking because I didn’t find the reference documentation especially helpful.
It says I need the “delete token” or “alias”. How do I get that for a given URL?
I’m looking for an example that describes how to construct the commands for the API calls knowing only the URL of the image.
You associate everything that can be bought with cryptocurrency as a scam? It sounds like you haven’t even read the post. I spent a lot of time making it easily accessible here on Lemmy. You don’t even have to click the link. Just scroll-up and read :)
Yeah, it’s dangerous for a community to tolerate and adopt closed-source software. We should have done a better job pressuring them to license it openly.
The OSM wiki pointed me to Maperitive first, but I wish it pointed me to qgis first. We should probably edit the wiki with a huge warning banner that the code is closed, the app is full of bugs, and that it is not (and can not be) updated.
Edit: I took my own advice and added a big red box to the top of the article warning the user and pointing them to QGIS instead.
Edit 2: Do we have any way to know when the latest version of Maperitive (v2.4.3) was released? Usually I’d check the git repo, but…
Edit 3:
stat
on theMaperitive-latest.zip
file says that it’s last modified2018-02-27 17:25:07
, so it’s at least 6 years old.