I know it’s been getting worse over time, but I could still find what I needed after some digging.

Recently it’s been like 10 minutes of adjusting search terms, still getting completely useless or irrelevant results, and me just giving up afterwards. Other search engines seem just as bad.

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    Not being sure was part of my point. We can’t be sure. But all their incentives are aligned in the right way. That’s the best we can hope for. And better than any alternative right now.

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      I understand the sunk cost fallacy, but I truly think you should read that entire page, friend… That’s all I’ll say though! :)

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        How many times are you going to post that link? We have seen it, and at this point you’re just spamming.

        We get it, you don’t like Kagi. Stop spamming the thread.

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          Well, considering I was about to start using the service, I’d say that I was just trying to help others out. I’m appalled at the shit Vlad has said, and so should others.

          So, again, sorry for trying to point out that the CEO of Kagi does NOT care about privacy, GDPR, or transparency!

          You can ignore the fucking link if you don’t like it, and keep being blissfully ignorant all you want! :)

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            So, again, sorry for trying to point out that the CEO of Kagi does NOT care about privacy, GDPR, or transparency!

            Privacy != anonymity. They satisfy the most important aspects of the GDRP, like data and scope minimization, clear explanation of what data they collect and why, a fantastic privacy policy. They don’t let you download a file with your email address in it, woah.

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              Cherry picking the one thing doesn’t make your argument any more sound, homie…

              Feel free to keep sticking up for Vlad daddy. I’m sure he’ll reward you with a few more extra searches this month. :)

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                I answered with more stuff in other comments, but you didn’t address any of that anyway.

                I personally have no brand faith, I am a happy customer and the moment the company doesn’t adhere to my principles I will dump it. There is no sunk cost as it’s a running subscription (you keep mentioning this, so I though I will say it).

                That said, if I see someone claiming they have a “blase” approach to privacy or they don’t care about it, I will point out that this is complete bullshit. Using the missing “download my data” feature to support this claim is outright pathetic.

                To be even more precise, as a socialist I don’t like many of Vlad’s ideas that tend towards libertarianism. That said, the company has a good amount of worker ownership, it operates on principles I currently respect and that are miles higher than the standard tech company. I am absolutely in favour of supporting positive business in a field where companies are disgusting on average, and in cases evil.

                Now, if you have anything else than childish arguments I am happy to discuss them. I have pointed to a number of inaccuracies in the article, there are outdated data (like the number of employees) and subjective views from the author. You are posting this article everywhere like it’s some kind of holy grail of gotchas, when it’s not. There are some good points (financial reporting exists, is not 100% transparent - which is not due, the amount spent for the t-shirts was IMHO not a great idea, etc.), but the fundamental points against the company are shacky at best. As I said elsewhere, all the shpiel about AI etc. is fully addressed in kagi own site where they clearly explain what they mean, for example. The features are actually pretty nice, even for someone like me who is not a fan of LLMs, and the results are quite accurate (the post author claims they are almost always wrong) from my experience.

                BTW my searches are unlimited :)

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                  I posted the article to create AWARENESS, homie. I even said I was looking to use Kagi myself.

                  I have nothing else to fucking address, because IT IS RIGHT THERE ON THE WEB PAGE WITH HYPERLINKS. Those same hyperlinks will bring you to your fucking answer! READ it, just like I did.

                  By the way, sunk cost fallacy. A subscription doesn’t change anything about it. lol

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                    I read the post, hence my points. I am not really looking for answers, because I don’t have questions, I had observations. You on the other hand seem to have your whole opinion formed on this inaccurate post, and I would expect someone in your position to look for more perspectives, when you clearly are not. You seem instead on a crusade against the company (good for you), and even if all the post was true, because they spent too much on t-shirts, invested too much in AI products (that I repeat, are opt-in)? Because they don’t comply with a technicality of GDPR? Lol Ok, more power to you.

                    Also, what I mean by a subscription is that I cancel it and I am done. I didn’t invest in it in any shape or form, what I paid I consumed already, there is no feeling of wasting previous investment in a running subscription.

                    Judging from your attitude, your lack of content, your very annoying “homie”, your inability to address any point against the content of the article, I am guessing either you are the author and you are butthurt that is not taken as gospel, or you just have ulterior motives and you are here just to stir shit (instead of “spreading awareness”). Either way, I have already invested too much time writing responses to your silly comments. I will show you how good I am in avoiding the sunk cost fallacy and block you, despite the time invested in the conversation.

                    Cya