• Steve
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    3 days ago

    I think that slavers don’t deserve monuments […]
    Lincoln himself did not personally own slaves, but [yada, yada, yada]

    You’re just making a different shift here.
    Shifting the definition of slaver, from one commonly understood usage, to your own personal version.

    But that doesn’t even matter, as you admit that’s not the reason you don’t like it.
    The reason you don’t like it, isn’t any rational practical reason. It’s an ideological dogmatism. A decree. Because you don’t like it, other’s shouldn’t be allowed to. Which is kind of funny coming from “an outspoken anarchist”.

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      Shifting the definition of slaver, from one commonly understood usage, to your own personal version.

      I literally cited the dictionary definition. A slaver is any person involved in the slave trade.

      The reason you don’t like it, isn’t any rational practical reason.

      You literally don’t have to have a practical reason to like or not like stuff. Like I could’ve been like “I don’t like the monuments because they look like doo doo” and that is a legitimate aesthetic preference.

      Because you don’t like it, other’s shouldn’t be allowed to.

      When did I say that others should be banned from liking it? I just want people to understand what the thing they’re liking actually represents, which is the vile AmeriKKKan settler-colonial project.

      Which is kind of funny coming from “an outspoken anarchist”.

      Yes because anarchism is when you have literally no opinions on anything ever and you let literally everything happen with absolutely no pushback whatsoever 🙄.

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        I just want people to understand what the thing they’re liking actually represents,

        It doesn’t actually represent anything. It’s a public pool.
        You just imagine it represents something. Something specific to you.
        Just as anyone else could imagine it represents anything else.

        And what you really want, is to convince others your imagining is real. Because you believe it is. And since you can’t choose what you believe or don’t, all you can do is try to convince others to believe what you do.

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          It doesn’t actually represent anything. It’s a public pool.

          What the fuck are you smoking and can I have some?

          It’s literally called the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. It obviously is a memorial to Lincoln. The National Mall is filled with monuments which are explicitly dedicated to memorializing various figures from AmeriKKKan history. We’re not debating this!

          And what you really want, is to convince others your imagining is real.

          Wow golly gee I must be a real fucking psycho to want to … convince people to think like I do. Goddamn, that’s some crazy shit.

          Only a shitLIB would be up their own ass enough to have a problem with trying to convince people to think differently.

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            3 days ago

            I don’t have a problem with you.
            As I said, you’re doing the only thing you can. I can’t fault you for that. Nothing I wrote was in anger, or meant to be combative. I expect that offline you’re a perfectly kind and decent person. I wish you all the best. Truly.

            You are right. There is no debating the meaning behind things built by people who are long dead. Because as I said, what they mean to us today is whatever we want. It perfectly represents one thing to you, and another entirely different thing to me, and something neither of us imagined to someone else. There is no debate there.