I’ve been a paid Proton Unlimited customer for several years now and aside from a few small complaints, I’m generally very happy with the services I’m paying for. I agree that there is too much focus on “sidequests” like Wallet and Meet before core products are fully rebuilt and meeting expectations. I agree that Linux versions and some feature implementations are taking a long time. However, I have a fully functioning suite of Mail, Drive, VPN, Calendar and more that meet 95% of my needs. To be fair, I’m sure the zero-access/zero-knowledge encryption aspect makes development much more difficult.

If you’re worried about political affiliations/interests, I’ll give you that Andy Yen has made a few worrisome comments. I’m not sure what to do there. Assuming there aren’t repeat occurrences, I’m satisfied with their statement about the French political figure sponsorship.

If it’s the FBI cases and subpoenas, it comes down to understanding the difference between privacy and anonymity, and knowing what strategy is required to achieve actual anonymity.

So why (especially on Lemmy) is there so much Proton hate/relunctancy? Eager to hear some non-biased, fact-driven thoughts here!

  • SteveEnglish
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    il y a 7 heures

    They’re using full end to end encryption for most things. There are no open email or calendar standards that handle encryption. So interoperability limitations are a natural consequence.

    I’ll take private over open every time.

    • vas@lemmy.ml
      1·
      il y a 2 heures

      There are no open email or calendar standards that handle encryption.

      That would be a nice sounding argument, but actually, if you pay them, then all of a sudden calendar exporting becomes possible:

      “Share calendar
      Upgrade to a Mail paid plan to share your calendar.”

      To confirm, click https://calendar.proton.me/u/0/ then click on the cog near your calendar on the right -> Click again the cog Settings button on the right for your calendar -> Share calendar

      • SteveEnglish
        1·
        il y a 1 heure

        Shareing a calander is very different. That’s simple.
        I thought you wanted to use an open source calander app.

        If that’s all you need, then you only have to pay for the service, it’ll work fine.

        • vas@lemmy.ml
          1·
          il y a 1 heure

          I ideally want full sync of course. “Well at least they have an export function” I thought, and found out it’s paid.

          Anyway, I think we understand each other - just re-wording the information differently. Proton’s offering in that regard is clear.