• The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Platforms should, like how we had to shut down our shit posting community for CSAM.

    ISPs are a privatized infrastructure and should really be run as utilities. Like trains or water should be.

    The world has been treated as a for-profit endeavor and this has many regrettable consequences.

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      exactly. switch my packets, and shut the fuck up.

      the water company isnt trying to upsell me on premium water services, i would like the same from my isp thankyouverymuch.

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          think of how much money could be saved not having to advertise alone.

          we literally have a pretend market for who owns the last mile to force competition into a market that shouldnt exist. insane

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      It’s an unpopular opinion, but crippling platforms due to CSAM is a lot more harmful than what would happen if we did not have such draconian laws around it. Do people think there would be some dramatic explosion of CSAM? I don’t buy that for a second and the act of producing such material has always and will always be illegal, so like everything else, it seems ridiculous to prosecute the particular crime of posession.

      Seize all funds received for distributing it, throw anyone involved in producing it in prison and throw away the key, and stop holding threat of social death over anybody’s head if some idiots throw a bunch of digital gunk at them.

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        As a CSA survivor, who had images taken of me while I was abused… Fuck you.

        People wanting to possess it is exactly what encourages people to produce the material. If you let people possess it with no consequences you will let the demand shoot up and basic economics should tell you what happens next with the supply part.

        That is disgusting. Seriously. You should feel ashamed of yourself.

        • uis@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          It seems I’m going into really wierd conversation.

          If you let people possess it

          I think you are missing the point or are a troll. Person above said that creating and/or buying is always be illigal anyway. Or you want to make easier for abusers to collect information about their future victims by destroying privacy?

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            Oh look, another shithead pedo apologist.

            Creating and buying is exactly what they’re trying to get people to accept, incrementally, by attacking possession first. Exploiting the warped way Americans have been taught to think about morality to do it. And your sorry ass is helping him. You doing so is not acceptable AT ALL and neither is any notion of getting rid of CP possession bans.

            You will not make pedophilia socially acceptable and you will not lie to me and say that you aren’t, and then go back to doing it like I know you’re gonna do.

            You’re evil.

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              Dear Faust, another one. It is so much easier to call opponent Hitler/pedophile/terrorist than counter-argue.

              This is discussion about ISP’s surveillance. This is not just attacking posession. This is attacking computer that relayed data stream. Technically it is message sequence, but the fact we have discussion speaks that you doesn’t care. Should postman go to jail if delivered letter contained child pornography? You say that postman should open and read every letter.

              Your only option to not look like complete troll is to somehow define posession in a way that excludes postman(ISP).

              Here’s my take on your manipulation:

              You will not make espionage socially acceptable and you will not lie to me and say that you aren’t, and then go back to doing so like I know you’re gonna do.

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                No. You’re a pedo apologist. No one owes you a counter argument and you’re not going to get the legitimacy you seek from a debate. Fuck off.

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        Fuck off, you’re just a pedo.

        Edit: I angered at least 6 pedos!

        Edit 2: We’re up to 8 angry pedos now!