• Kichae@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    Tge system moves people around at the cost of some dying. That may not be your intention, but it’s what the system does.

    Not shutting down the system as soon as you realize it operates on blood means you’re ok with the amount of blood it’s consuming.

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      6 months ago

      Not shutting down the system as soon as you realize it operates on blood means you’re ok with the amount of blood it’s consuming.

      Sometimes it’s better than the alternative. Magical perfect systems don’t exist. You get the best one you can and then improve on it.

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      6 months ago

      No, not at the cost of some dying. That just randomly happens. The same way anything happens while doing anything. Babies are born in airplanes. That does not mean that they are delivery rooms.

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        6 months ago

        Maybe you’ll understand it clearer like this: There are no side effects, their are only effects.

        Whatever something does is whatever it does, we have intentions with things but our intentions don’t determine reality. If a system has effects we do not like our only recourse is to change the system, we cannot convince it to be other than what it is.

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          6 months ago

          So then everythings purpose is to do everything. No matter how seldom sometime happens in connection with something, that is it’s purpose. What a useful definition.

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            6 months ago

            you understand that there’s a difference between causality and coincidence right?

            Chairs cause weakening of core muscles which can lead to injury, chairs are frequently found in buildings that catch fire however they are unrelated to the fires.

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              6 months ago

              Not according to your definition. My childhood house burned down because of an electrical fire. So according to your logic, the purpose of electricity is to burn down homes. It’s absurd.

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                6 months ago

                Yes, the system of electrifying houses is to enable widespread use of electrical devices at the cost of a few electrocutions and fires.

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                    6 months ago

                    I don’t know who we is here, by the blithe arrogance I’ll assume usa.

                    Presumably because people decided there were too many electrocutions and fires and so modified electrification of houses to reduce that? What do you think you’re point is? It’s not that people are gleefully throwing children into fires for their TVs, it’s just that stuff does what it does.

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              6 months ago

              The whole point of the previous examples was to verify this is the logic. Why are your examples now specially not affected? Why is the purpose of the chair not to weak for muscles?

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                6 months ago

                The chair is to enable comfort at the cost of weakness, but not house fires.

                you have appalling reading comprehension.