• Belastend@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    and then these orgs take over seamlessly

    And other lies you can tell yourself. Dont get me wrong, i am more aligned with anarchist thought than any other leftist denomination, but holy shit we cant be this naive.

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            6 months ago

            10 months. It lasted 10 months . Don’t get me wrong, it was a beautiful thing. But we need to look beyond siege socialism.

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                6 months ago

                I was referencing Revolutionary Catalonia not the wider Spanish Revolution. My mistake.

                It is possible to co-opt existing structures, but how do we counter outside forces, like happened during the Spanish Revolution. I could be wrong, but Horizontalism will always be weakened against organized opposition.

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                  6 months ago

                  That’s a completely different discussion. I personally don’t think it’s as easy to declare that such structures are weaker. The Spanish proved that by fighting for 3 years against overwhelming odds. I think the time that revolution happened was really unfortunate, but the same sort of revolution happening at the time where the surrounding nation states are weakened enough to not be able to intervene might have a vastly different result.

                  But at the end of the day, the destabilization works, so we keep doing it because those orgs are also the most ethical. What happens if and when capitalism collapses is a bridge that every such society crossed when it reached it, and nobody managed to pre-plan how it would go.