The most toxic communities I know of are the Genshin community, Payday 2, FFXIV and source games communities in general.
LoL
League was the poster child for toxic communities a decade or so ago when I played. It must have gotten better (it certainly couldn’t have gotten worse!) if this isn’t the top comment by a mile.
Reporting players for in-game behaviour rarely did anything.
And there was no reporting mechanism at all if they decided to continue harassing you through DMs after the game was over - all you could do was block them.
I agree. But I want to give them some credit. I report people for being toxic or for afking. Recently the client tells me almost after every game that someone in my previous game was punished after my report.
Now, I can never easily validate this. But if its true it seems riot is taking a much more active role with automated punishment.
League of Legends is pretty fun. Just “mute all” every game and it’s a lot more tolerable. Don’t let the people that tilt after one or two deaths get to you. Recent comeback changes make the game playable until your nexus explodes
Can confirm- playing that game, if you don’t have enough friends online to make a full team- is painful… Very painful.
Don’t play this game solo. Don’t play it with strangers. You will have a bad time.
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They clamped down so much that I get a 3 day chat ban for saying “sex”
Its cleaned up chat a lot but the people quitting as soon as the game goes down hill are still there
I’m convinced that some of the toxicity is tuned to your own contributions. I’m almost 40 and I still play League 8-10 hours a week.
Almost all of that is tipsy ARAM games, and considering I got my toxicity out years ago I find that, given I’m always positive and having a fun time, I solely run into others that are positive and having a fun time.
People might underestimate how much self sorting that game does based on behavior in their algorithms.
maybe ten years ago, but it’s a lot better now. still there’s toxicity but nowhere near as bad
Man FFXIV is no ray of sunshine but I can’t imagine it’s anyway near as bad as literally any competitive game. I’ve never been called a slur in FFXIV before and it feels like it happens once a session for things like Dota, LoL, Overwatch, Siege, etc.
Yeah, I kind of disagree with FFXIV. My whole experience there last year was entirely pleasant.
Second this, you’ll get a couple sweatlords every now and then especially if you’re running end game content but the first 100 or more hours of gameplay are absolutely pleasant. I only interacted with the reddit group outside of game but those guys were also nice.
Basically just don’t prog endgame content on pf and you avoid most issues. And don’t crash an ERP den and be shocked to see whatever goes on in there.
I’ve played with some rude individuals on FFXIV, like those annoyed that new players haven’t memorised low-level dungeons and are unable to speedrun them. By and large I’d agree, though. I joined after playing SWTOR for years and could immediately tell the difference.
The only time I can see FFXIV being toxic is if you’re doing savage content in party finder. You might occasionally run into a jerk in duty roulette or pvp but my experience since I started playing a few years ago has been mostly good.
Rainbow Six Siege is up there — there’s six dimensions of assholery in the game by my count.
- Tom Clancy games tend to attract right-wing assholes because they’re Tom Clancy
- competitive FPS
- one-shot one-kill gameplay
- friendly fire on by default
- character picks
- you need to play to a specific meta
Not sure if this still happens, but for groups of 4 that used to want to play together, there was no way to lock the team or kick from lobby. So what would happen is you’d get match-maked in as the 5th player, and as soon as the game started, your team would kill you. This would happen about 25% of the time with random matchmaking.
I ended up quitting R6 Siege because of the toxicity and constant slurs on voice chat. It’s a shame because it was otherwise my favourite competitive FPS.
It’s common enough that I remember it too. Now you get kicked for teamkilling more than once, but groups can just alternate teamkills to avoid this.
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Easily Rocket League. It’s always been toxic but it’s been much worse since becoming free to play.
- Rage quitting
- Malicious compliance (AFK, accidental own-goals)
- Team mates playing for the opposing team entire games
- Passive aggressive quick chats
- Overtly aggressive free-form chats (being chastised over every tiny mistake)
The game’s competitive ranking systems makes it so each win and loss matters, and people often take their vitriol out on their own team before looking inwards.
People do that stuff in casual, too, which just blows my mind.
I turned off “all non tactical chats” or whatever the setting is called, and that helped a lot.
lol, I love rocket league and I can’t deny this, but there is also a thing called confirmation bias as I don’t play other games to verify.(Fighting game for example can be pretty toxic as well.)
Yesterday, I have a casual 2s match where the opponent are really good, they have maybe gc2~3 mechanics(judge from their touches, consistency and boost controls, way better than my usual C3-GC1 encounters) and just trying to get clip shots on me and another random. We were originally doing fine, BUT, for some reason, after they scored the 2nd goal with some flip reset stuff. My random team mate starts to trying to “show off” with ceiling shots and his own flip reset thing. Like I don’t mind if you can actually pull that off. But he mess up or simply not mechanic enough with that which leaves me defending 2 of them with comm, it’s impossible for me to work against 2 GC let along 2 GC2-3. Somewhere after we lost 4-1 and he had a good shot from my blocking a pass, it’s literally just catch and drive up to score cause the opponents are still “falling” from they mid-air prejump stuff. No, he has to score a flip reset so he push to mid boost and then did his setup. You know how fast they can be so by the time he is off wall the opponents are back and one in goal on on wall. Then me just watching him doing his stupid flip reset attempt.
And then he missed the ball, I let out a long “urrrhhhh” sigh in VC don’t know if he hears it or just too shameful, he throws the FF after my sigh and I gladly accepted it. I usually don’t even FF if there is a toxic play on my side cause I like keep them around so they don’t ruin other people’s game, if they quite they eat the ban for 5 mins, so take one for the team I can manage. But I can’t just keep up 1v2 in that situation. And to me that play style is more frustrating than dealing with toxic players.
I turned the chat off a long time ago. Instantly made the game better. I don’t need a kid to show off his NSFW vocabulary.
Every game community has some rotten apples but RL has by far the highest percentage of 'em in any game I’ve played. I get the urge to play RL a few times per year, but it only takes a few games (be it casual or competitive) to put me off again.
Im just going to say FFXIV in my experience has a very friendly community, one of the nicest ive seen, so i dont fully understand where that comes from.
For me it would probably be Garry’s Mod, as its full of so many edgy teens who constantly say the n word.
I think the FFXIV thing can be very YMMV.
I’ve had super helpful roulettes and really terrible roulettes. When I was raiding, I found various people who were either super toxic or super helpful in DF.
I’ve never played a game that was so all over the place with community as FFXIV.
Dark Souls
Anything FromSoftware really. Any question is answered with a variation of “git gud”. Not to mention the elitism.
“I think DS is pretty ok”
“Git gud dude! DS is amazing!”
The only appropriate response to that is
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.Ingenius.
tbh I’ve always found the community to be very helpful when I’ve needed a hand with anything
And I play offline because all online play did was waste my time with trolls
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But behold, cramped area!
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Dota 2.
Easily. One of the most well known guides for noobs used to literally be called “Welcome to Dota, You Suck” to poke fun at how bad it is.
This one rages!
Most MOBAs are pretty notoriously bad, though Heroes of Newerth was definitely the worst one of those i had played.
Anecdotally, my personal worst experience was with FFXIV, which was probably exacerbated by how much praise that community gets otherwise. The Novice Network system they have is a mess, new players are put into a channel with a bunch of “mentors” that don’t really want to help anyone, at least on the server I was on. They either wanted a global chat channel for their own use, or just wanted the cosmetic rewards mentors had on offer. I remember one actively trying to get new players to quit if he found out they had come from WoW. The channel is entirely self-moderated, and mentors would kick people out just for fun. It’s an AWFUL first impression for newer players.
One thing WoW definitely does better with their Guide channel is giving literally no tangible rewards to guides, if somebody is opting into being a Guide it is only because they want to help new players, they get nothing else for it.
Rust
Told someone I played rust and they asked if I was racist or suicidal because those are apparently the qualifiers.
It really does bring the worst out of humanity, but at the same time I’ve met and known people for years who were my neighbors or even rivals
Same people I game with today I meet on rust. Only a couple of us still play as we are all older now and have real jobs but great friends.
The game or the programming language?
The game.
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Was looking for this lol.
I bought a Rust ages ago, back when the development basically had it turning into a new game every year. Maybe I just got lucky back then, but never had a toxic interaction.
Cut to last year, when a group of guild members went to Rust so I redownloaded it after 5 years. Most of us only lasted a few hours and we tried half a dozen servers lol.
Yes, it’s crazy to me that people would think another game is more toxic because in rust most servers (I’m talking main/officiall servers) are really popular for at least half a week being Thursday wipes and Monday, if you build next to toxic you deal with them that whole wipe and then monthly servers same thing. It’s not one match and done with them I’m talking days and hours of just straight toxic gameplay.
Those people just have not had the misfortune of playing Rust.
Yes, I say all that with love though I have some of my best gaming memories on rust.
Genshin community,
I get that communities for popular games can be a bit hit or miss, but communities for single player games are pretty chill. Competitive team games like the Source games you mentioned, League of Legends etc. are on a whole different level of toxic. They can’t even be compared.
For something like Genshin the real problem is content creators. Much of the so called toxicity has little to nothing to do with the game itself and is more an issue with huge cults of personality clashing with each other. I think every popular game is going to fall victim to this going forward and you just have to learn to ignore it.
Yeah cults of personality + ipad kids on social media tend to be the large problem with genshin imo
Eve Online where, as long as you’re not telling your victim to use real world money to buy things before you scam them, anything goes.
I always thought that part was interesting. I personally never had a downright toxic interaction in Eve Online and I used to multibox 7 accounts.
I can tell no one here has played Mordhau lol. It’s basically wall to wall neo Nazis spamming racial slurs. I got regular death threats, like almost every match. Destiny? Little league bullshit.
CS:Go has some pretty unwelcoming and newbie-haters out there.
I got kicked out of casual for not being good enough. CASUAL.
That’s surprising, maybe depends on region (I’m on the US) but in my ~10 years of playing competitive it’s almost always been a good experience
Yeah. I’ve been playing with an outwardly transfem teamtag and have had nothing but positive interactions tbh.
Reminds me of valorant ( Indian server )
It’s pretty broad but I have met some truly awful human beings playing Minecraft. the “community” as a whole is… fine? for a game community, but the individual pockets you find can be truly horrifying. Hell, even in so-called “friendly” communities you can meet some pretty terrible people. People treat their servers like little fiefdoms, and all the toxicity with a fiefdom comes with that.
just throwin in another anecdote that XIV has had one of the best game communities I’ve experienced, even when the game gets pretty stressful in endgame content.
