This post is about the current arguements taking place in the post called “Nexus
Mods Fine With Bigots Leaving Over Removed Starfield ‘Pronoun’ Mod” If the
primary objective here is to engage in constructive dialogue, then name-calling
and overgeneralization serve no purpose and only fuel the fire. The issue at
hand has been conflated to be about political affiliations like Republican vs.
Democrat, when that’s not the core point of discussion at all. We’re here to
debate the merits and drawbacks of mod removal, not to stereotype one another
based on our political leanings or otherwise. The aim of this post is to
encourage a constructive and respectful discussion around mod removals in gaming
communities. Name-calling, political labeling, and overgeneralization serve only
to fuel divisiveness and distract from the main issue. Rather than resorting to
stereotypes or making sweeping statements about each other’s viewpoints, let’s
aim to engage in a balanced and open dialogue that acknowledges the complexities
of the subject matter. We all have strong feelings about this topic, but
constructive conversations require that we steer clear of actions that deepen
divisions.
For everyone reading this, if you have thoughts or opinions on the subject, please direct them to the original post to centralize the discussion. Thank you.
I would like to see more peoples perspectives to try and achieve a middle ground with whether the mod should be kept or not.
I can’t fathom how anyone, besides a bigot, would want a mod to remove an option, that they are free to not choose, from a video game. It’s like a mod for BG3 that removes the wizard class from character creation because you don’t want to play a wizard.
The people who don’t care for choosing pronouns, chose one just fine. They didn’t quit the game during character creation and look for a mod to remove a choice, that they were free to not choose.
I may have tried to given the benefit of the doubt if it were like, during chara creation after the name is made you can’t continue until you select from the drop-down, thereby forcing players to choose? (Even then, what a ridiculous thing to complain about.)
But it’s not even that. If you choose male or female you have to actively click on the pronoun to bring up the menu to even change it. When first coming across it I almost passed right by it, only noticing it at all because I can read. You have to actively go out of your way to utilize the mechanic.
It just makes no sense for it to be an issue outside of people looking to create problems. And hate.
If you’d like to engage in a debate on this topic, I invite you to bring your arguments to the original post where the discussion is centralized. This will help maintain a focused and meaningful conversation. Thank you.
Gonna be real honest here, there’s no ‘debate’ to be had here. Anyone thinking there is a debate to be had here probably has ulterior motives and is being disingenuous.
The purpose of centralizing the discussion is to understand various perspectives on platform moderation. While you may see the issue as settled, other individuals may have questions or viewpoints they’d like to explore. Declining to engage in debate doesn’t nullify the merit of the discussion for others who are genuinely interested in dissecting the subject matter.
“John Kennedy believed so strongly that one’s aim should not just be the most comfortable life possible, but that we should all do something to right the wrongs we see, and not just complain about them. We owe that to our country, and our country will suffer if we don’t serve her. He believed that one man can make a difference – and that every man should try.“
And it was Former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy who said it.
Sealioning is often a tactic used to derail conversations, but that’s not my intent here. I genuinely want to explore the community standards that dictate mod removals. If you find that pseudo-intellectual, perhaps it’s because the questions themselves are inherently complex and require intellectual discussion.
I can’t fathom how anyone, besides a bigot, would want a mod to remove an option, that they are free to not choose, from a video game. It’s like a mod for BG3 that removes the wizard class from character creation because you don’t want to play a wizard.
The people who don’t care for choosing pronouns, chose one just fine. They didn’t quit the game during character creation and look for a mod to remove a choice, that they were free to not choose.
JFC.
I may have tried to given the benefit of the doubt if it were like, during chara creation after the name is made you can’t continue until you select from the drop-down, thereby forcing players to choose? (Even then, what a ridiculous thing to complain about.)
But it’s not even that. If you choose male or female you have to actively click on the pronoun to bring up the menu to even change it. When first coming across it I almost passed right by it, only noticing it at all because I can read. You have to actively go out of your way to utilize the mechanic.
It just makes no sense for it to be an issue outside of people looking to create problems. And hate.
If you’d like to engage in a debate on this topic, I invite you to bring your arguments to the original post where the discussion is centralized. This will help maintain a focused and meaningful conversation. Thank you.
Gonna be real honest here, there’s no ‘debate’ to be had here. Anyone thinking there is a debate to be had here probably has ulterior motives and is being disingenuous.
No one should normalize this ‘debate’.
The purpose of centralizing the discussion is to understand various perspectives on platform moderation. While you may see the issue as settled, other individuals may have questions or viewpoints they’d like to explore. Declining to engage in debate doesn’t nullify the merit of the discussion for others who are genuinely interested in dissecting the subject matter.
Nah, I’m good. I skimmed it and I see 2 view points, everyone who thinks it’s stupid, and you trying to keep the party going.
In the words of JFK, ‘One person can make a difference, and everyone should try.’
The full quote is:
And it was Former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy who said it.
Is the difference you’re trying to make to get everyone to lend validity to the notion of even discussing allowing the transphobic mod?
Ever heard of Sealioning? Look it up. That’s you. Your posts are dripping with pseudo-intellectual “just asking questions” spittle.
Sealioning is often a tactic used to derail conversations, but that’s not my intent here. I genuinely want to explore the community standards that dictate mod removals. If you find that pseudo-intellectual, perhaps it’s because the questions themselves are inherently complex and require intellectual discussion.