Wow that’s awesome hopefully they open source it and make it easy for anyone to use
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Google’s recaptcha is used to help train image-recognition programs (like all those ones having you identify signs/bicycles/stoplights help Google’s self-driving cars)
They used to have the 2 words, where one word was the control and one word was from a physical book that Google was trying to digitalizesame deal with the ones with matching the orientation of something with a given direction being pointed at; it’s training 2d-to-3d AI image generators
How does that make it acceptable? I’ve had to do like 6 minutes of free labor in the past 10 years. Google owes me like $6-10 for that bullshit.
Since i started getting in to online privacy, I’ve been stuck in captcha-purgatory a lot…it just keeps loading a never ending stream of new captchas for me to solve.
Yeah, there was a chunk of time where there was some spat going on between them and VPN providers, and whenever I would wind up on an exposed VPN server every single captcha would take over a minute of clicking through different prompts. Happened so frequently for the fastest server that I just switched to Firefox and DuckDuckGo because I couldn’t stand getting hit every single time I googled something. Not just every session, but literally every single search.
The worst was when it would test me for several minutes straight, and then have the gall to tell me to start over again. Google’s really been racing to the bottom lately.
Yeah I noticed now that Google maps has little icons for traffic light positions. Years of our work and AI learning for…fuck all. I CAN SEE THE FUCKIN LIGHTS IRL
Does lemmy signup use reCAPTCHA? Because I’m starting to think I’m a robot when trying to sign up new accounts. lol. I’ve never had such a hard time getting it right on the first time. Or maybe my eyesight is just getting bad.
I always use the audio for Lemmy captcha because some of the letters are ambiguous
The cloudflare ones are just as bad
mCaptcha is an open source proof of work tool to tackle bots.
Wouldn’t it be significantly easier to bypass if it were open source?
Nope
Encryption is generally “open source” and that’s what makes is strong. Security does not come from people not knowing how things work, but by having properly designed things that work whether people know how they work or not.
This company can’t stop starting new projects and putting their current ones on the back burner. Their services are all spread out between multiple operating systems. Want proton drive app? Better use Windows. Want the new proton mail app? Better use iOS. Want anything? Better not use Linux.
Yeah, its super annoying.
Port forwarding with the VPN on Linux was an adventure because all the docs are outdated and I had to scour github issues for how to do it.
Android mail app becomes super slower over time. No snooze. Wish it could do POP3/IMAP for send/receive from other accounts like my school one. Can’t delete aliases I made before proton pass aliases came out.
No contact syncing as a bi-directional provider with Android.
Someone recently added Proton Drive to rclone if you want to sync in Linux. Worked for my small test but I’ve since moved to Backblaze for my backend storage while waiting for a solution and it works really well for less than a $1 a month.
Their vpn client for Linux was also missing features compared to their windows counterpart.
This is something we really need competition on. In fact, proton are doing strong solid work as a whole.
The more companies that build these the harder they will be to defeat with a bot.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“As we investigated available CAPTCHA options, we weren’t satisfied, so we decided to develop our own,” Eamonn Maguire, a former Facebook engineer who now heads up Proton’s machine learning team, wrote in a blog post.
This is usually presented to the user in the form of a visual or cognitive challenge, one that is relatively easy for a human to complete but difficult for a machine.
CAPTCHAs, while generally effective, come with trade-offs in terms of usability, accessibility, cultural biases, and annoyances that businesses would prefer not to impose on their users.
This is why companies such as Apple and Cloudflare have sought ways to tell the difference between humans and bots automatically using alternative mechanisms, such as through device and telemetry data.
And while there are other alternative CAPTCHA services out there, given Proton’s core raison d’être, it clearly does make sense to develop its own — as resource-intensive as that may be.
“In this manner, a botnet that can bypass the initial proof of work but struggles with the visual challenges will be met with increasingly complex computations.
The original article contains 642 words, the summary contains 179 words. Saved 72%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Here’s the original article
In the future, we may also consider making it available for third-parties who care about privacy via an API.
Wait, it isn’t even available for other services?
Yeah and wheres the source code?
Question: how do you make captchas work for blind people?
Ah! They do an audio puzzle apparently. For Google captchas at least.
Some used to have an audio button where they read the letters in different voices / accents and there’s a ton of weird background noise and static. It was super annoying.
I know that hCaptcha has a system where they send you an email containing a link to a page, which will set a cookie in your browser telling the CAPTCHA to auto-flag you as verified.
Of course, good luck if your browser blocks third-party cookies, you don’t browse in incognito mode, or if your screen reader can interact with the CAPTCHA to get the link in the first place…
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