• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    It’s not that surprising. Despite Job’s lies about “patenting” multi touch or whatever, they never developed tech. Most of these silicon valley companies don’t, they staple together tech that’s developed in the public sector and take all the credit and profit.

    Edit: I forget that people don’t generally know about this:

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/82/3e/f0/823ef0be785ee604eccea26ff6583156--mariana-ux.jpg

    All of the actual tech is public sector. The form factor is a rectangular mini computer around a touchscreen. That wasn’t special either, there were lots of devices that were the same. The thing that made the iPhone “special” was the capacitive touchscreen, which wasn’t a design innovation, but a technological innovation. They put it in a shiny box and sold it to you. The other thing they did was the app store, which was a software repo with a shiny coat of paint that charged money (most software repos up to that point and to this day are free).

    The other thing they did was take billions in government grants to start silicon valley. All the big tech giants are a product of goverment spending on private companies to sell us public sector innovations.

    If you think the iphone or anything sold to you by a company is special, you’ve been duped by marketing. It’s understandable because they will spend billions of dollars to figure out the best way to make you want their crap, but you were still duped.

    Edit 2: Lots of people saying I’m wrong, but nobody actually explaining how. I think you just don’t like being told you were duped.

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      1 year ago

      Strange comment to make about apple of all manufactures.

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          1 year ago

          Claiming Apple doesn’t develop tech is ridiculous, and raising them as an example even more so, because I can’t think of a vendor with higher portion of hardware built in house. You could make an argument for Sony (camera sensors) and Samsung (screens, also Exynos for their phones), but they’re up there.

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            1 year ago

            What tech do they develop? All you’ve said is they build hardware. That’s not developing tech.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, nobody’s saying you don’t write software. This is a history lesson in where the tech comes from.

        Even then, a lot of the work done there is stapling together APIs, right? A lot of those APIs are implementations of tech developed, again, in the public sector.

        And if you are writing novel stuff, I’d bet good money all the interesting stuff comes from research done in universities, right? Most of the interesting things I’ve ever programmed were based on public sector research.

        And even then, the industry got started with public sector money. Maybe your company got its start from VC funding or whatever, but that’s after the whole sector was jump started. Now the big companies in your field don’t pay taxes, in fact a lot of them are paid by your taxes.

        I mean, if you want to explain where I’m wrong, go for it. Right now all we have is “trust me”, which is famously strong evidence.