It’s my birthday, and I want the upscaling, the single platform, the flexibility (sailing the high seas), but it’s soooo old. $200? IDK
Honestly, for running jellyfin/emby/plex, there’s nothing better. The only thing an update might get you would be higher refresh rates or maybe 8k support, but for watching video, who cares?
Once I disabled the built-in “leanback” launcher with its fucking toxic ads and replaced it with flauncher, it’s been essentially perfect for watching media. flauncher is fugly as hell but it stays out of my face, unlike google’s ad-focused launcher.
AV1 is missing from the current shield and would be great to have as part of an updated model.
HLG, AV1, QMS, VP9 Profile 2 (YouTube HDR) and faster menus would make me want to upgrade from my 2017 Shield as that’d improve watching videos.
Ikr…I wish shield had an app only mode like the new Chromecast has.
Honestly, for running jellyfin/emby/plex, there’s nothing better.
I’m currently running Kodi on my Xbox with Jellycon to stream from a Jellyfin server.
I’d be genuinely curious how this is better.
I run Moonlight, SmartTube, Jellyfin, and Stremio on mine and it’s a beast.
Thank you so much for the FLauncher tip! I like it much more than the default Home Screen
Nvidia has all but backed out of the mobile chip market, and those chips are what this line used. So that’s why we haven’t seen any updates in years. But the good news is they have made a new chip for Nintendo’s next-gen switch coming out sometime next year. So within a year of that coming out, I would expect to finally see a new Shield or Nvidia TV or whatever they call it, using a similar chip to what goes in the Switch 2
Switch 2 launch: we heard you all say you wanted better battery life, so we delivered, 3x the battery life for the same performance! Get your switch 2 today, all switch games will work on switch 1 or 2!
Honestly that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
The same performance… please no.
The oled switch chip has way higher performance than switch v1, but its just underclocked so it has the same. You can overclock it so you have 60 fps in the botw. But the battery life and thermals suffer.
Not the worst, but I’d like the ability to have consistent 30fps across the board for all titles if we’re going for 2x the battery life. 60fps for the same battery life would be even better!
allno switch games will work on switch1 or2!This is Nintendo we are taking about after all
Nintendo traditionally has only broken backwards compatibility as part of a major change in form factor. The Wii could play Gamecube games, the Wii U could play Wii games. The Gameboy Colour could play Gameboy games, the Gameboy Advance could play Gameboy Colour games, the DS could play Gameboy Advance games, the 3DS could play DS games.
Given the Switch 2 is still a hybrid handheld, it would be out of character for them to break it.
I’m all for bashing Nintendo but this one is a straight up mistruth.
Trump leans into mic wrong Nintendo has a superb track record as far as backwards compatibility
Happy birthday :)
Thank you!
AI upscale is not worth it in my opinion unless you watch old blueray rips since compression algorithms would make upscaling worse in some cases.
I have Apple tv and linux pc for my 2 tvs.
If Apple tv cover your needs then go for it. I got it used in 2017 (I believe gen 3) and still butter smooth to this day.
I strongly disagree. The AI upscaling is incredibly practical. I have a 4k TV, and most 1080p shows and movies look insanely sharp. It’s not a gimmick.
This said, I don’t think anyone should buy these new right now. They need to release an update.
Don’t go with Apple TV, just buy a fire stick for next to nothing and wait for the next shield. That, or buy used.
It’s not a gimmick, however, not all videos would be better after the upscaling.
720p blueray rips yes. 720p YouTube compressed to hell no.
And regarding firestick, and on top of the performance gap, I don’t trust Amazon.
I’m just waiting for the EU to force Apple to be open, then I’ll move to everything Apple, maybe.
Hopefully they will. I was bummed when I knew that apple tv has no vpn functionality.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think they recently added vpn support to Apple TV.
I think so.
Last time I tried to use a vpn was like 2019
For real, other than locking down 3rd party app stores, apple products are pretty damn good.
What distro/software are you using?
I’m currently running debian 12. The tv is mainly used for YouTube so ublock origin + dearrow + sponsorblock + thumbdown back.
Unfortunately the only downside is HDR support. I had to use clunky smart tv software to run Jellyfin for HDR content.
I’ve tried KODE. It’s still not mature for my taste.
I bought the Nokia 8010 TV box instead of the shield. I do not know if it’s available in your country. Why? Cheaper and same ish enough.
I like it but “like” is all there is. I do not love it. As most android boxes it is not 100% stable and needs a reboot after a week or so.
I red in several forums the nvidia shield has the same problem.
Tbh the appletv is the wise choice. Stable, more apps, better ecosystem, better soc, more storage. Plex also works on it.
I couldn’t use it unfortunately because my Atmos setup is not arc 2.0 and the appletv only does uncompressed atmos. With arc 1.x it’s only possible to send atmos compressed over dolby digital plus.
I second this, I love my Apple TV. Blazingly fast and stable and the extra features are amazing. Bought a new sound bar the other day, held my iPhone up and it perfectly configured audio latency. The TV itself had trouble communicating with the sound bar over CEC so I told the Apple TV to learn the volume controls from the sound bar remote, took 10 seconds. When I got my TV, the AppleTV used the camera on my phone to configure the picture settings for most accurate colour reproduction. Added a couple notches of saturation because it’s my personal preference, done.
It plays everything I’ve thrown at it via Plex and Jellyfin, no issues. I also have Moonlight for streaming games from my PC via NVidia game stream and Steam Link for whenever Gamestream shits the bed. Just paired up an Xbox controller to the Apple TV, job done.
Oh, and TV OS 17 just came out and added third party VPN support, so if you do have Netflix or whatever, you can change region using a VPN.
I’m not an Apple fan boy but the Apple TV just works and if you already have a modern-ish iPhone (mine’s a 12), it makes it so much better.
Do you have a solution for running movies of off USB or similar with the Apple TV? I sometimes download movies or shows and I don’t want to deal with streaming them from the pc using plex as I always worry that I’m not getting the best quality. I usually plug a usb stick to my smart tv but sometimes it doesn’t pick up on the subtitles.
It’s literally all that is missing from Apple TV for me (plus the VPN thing that was missing). To be able to run media from an external storage.
I stream from my Synology Plex server to Plex on my ATV via Ethernet just fine. Some of my movies are 50GB 4K files and it plays back fine without transcoding.
What Gen. Apple TV? Are you using it stock ?
I ended up buying the Vertex2 device from HDFury. It solved all my audio issues by extracting audio from HDMI and sending it separately to my sound bar. Meanwhile, the video signal adds fake Dolby Vision support for my Samsung TV so that I get HDR whenever it’s available.
I do need to use Infuse as the media player on the Apple TV to get Dolby Atmos / Vision to work on most movies. I used to have to switch to the NVIDIA Shield to get that to work, but can’t remember a movie that has not worked lately.
I don’t think you can paint all Android TV boxes with the same brush. I have the 2017 Shield and it has been very stable and rarely needs to be rebooted.
For some reason my 2019 crashes when I start watching something in disney+ and change the volume during the first 5 seconds of the video. Otherwise its flawless(except for the ads on the home screen).
I don’t use Disney+, so I can’t speak to that, but I side-loaded FLauncher as soon as they introduced ads on the home screen.
I have one and it is pretty amazing, but it sucks for Kodi from time to time, usually a reboot fixes all the annoyances… But I don’t like that workaround.
My unit was downgraded to 8.2.3 and debloated for the sake of a better performance.
on the flip side, i also dowgraded to 8.2.3 and debloated. i have zero issues with Kodi using PKC with direct play over a wired connection.
Wait a few weeks without reboot and check again, although usually it does pretty well with PKC, especially if you have light local media.
I have the OG Shield Pro, with an additional remote, the most recebt one.
Besides changing the inner HDD for a SSD, it does all I need.
Sure, it doesn’t support the HDMI 2.1 that my TV does, but I don’t need that for what the Shield does for me (YouTube, Netflix and Plex playback).
I had issues with that lack of HDMI 2.1 support.
Tried to pair mine with an LG CX OLED and could not for the life of me get it to reliably run at 4K.
It chooses its own dogshit res and it looks bad even though it scales well. Not about to watch a bad picture on such an expensive display.
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In my experience the WiFi modem in this thing is shit.
Agreed. I have a Google node literally right next to it and it still drops the sig.
There is actually such a thing as too close
Well, it’s 7 feet ish…
Why not just run a cable?
It’s just a ‘booster’ not a hub
Imo, it’ll take 1-3 more birthdays until a new one comes out. Is there anything specific you’d want them to upgrade? The only clear thing they’re missing right now is av1 support. Given that it’s still the best player on the market, I’d say go ahead and get it. Maybe try to find one second hand to save a buck, that’s what I did earlier this year 🙂.
I am using a Chromecast 4k and I am quite happy with it … what would the shield accomplish better ?
Better app performance, better upscaling, game streaming (though you’ll need to use something like Moonlight for local streaming now), better audio format support for local Plex/Jellyfin servers.
Plex server
Oh man, I HATE to say it, but the old 4k fire stick is a lot better than the latest 4k chromecast.
The shield tube is better than both of these, though. But yeah… Such old hardware. They need to release something new. Still, it works with very few issues.
Better performance for Android TV apps
IMO nothing beats the Nvidia TV and I’ve tried just about everything. Heck, I’m still rocking a 2017 on my main TV (lacks Dolby Vision/Atmos and AI Upscaling but is otherwise fine).
The non-Pro seems to have issues that affect 4k decoding in plex but never seen similar issues on a Pro (I think packing the internals into that small tube was a mistake, and it’s overheating, but that’s just a guess).
There’s some hope Nvidia will come out with a next gen but people have been hoping (and spreading rumours about) that for years… until there’s an official announcement I wouldn’t expect it. They continue to support software upgrades though.
The only reason I think they might soon if at all is because the Nintendo Switch and the shield have similar SoCs. Tegra X1 with a Maxwell GPU. Well Switch 2 is close enough to release that people are seeing it and the SoC is showing up in benchmarks. Another ARM chip, but with an Ampere GPU this time.
So if NVidia is already building the SoC for Nintendo, it may be reasonably easy to make an upgrade to the Shield.
Nvidia has pretty much dropped this. I don’t forsee another version in the next three years. I don’t see anything you listed that wouldn’t be a good reason to go for the regular shield though and save some money. It’s still a good product. I would buy now.
I love my shield, so while ot is rather expensive and it seems like there won’t be future models, I still would have bought it.
Pi4 and Kodi in the form of OSMC or Libreelec is cheaper and IMO better
As far as I know, the pi4 cannot output 10-bit 4k hdr or Dolby vision, which makes it basically a non-starter as a media box.
I also think it struggles with h.264 high bitrate content.
Mine outputs 10bit HDRjust fine even with DV. Takes changing some settings but it’s not rocket surgery.
The biggest issue with Pi and Kodi setups is the lack of good remotes and sleep/standby. Get a Shield if you want stuff to “just work”.
How come? Does it support anything higher than 1080p?
Will this work fluently with multiple streaming platforms?
