Dr.Jill Stein, who is running for president as a Green Party candidate, has selected Professor Butch Ware as her vice-presidential running mate.

WASHINGTON (TND) — Dr.Jill Stein, who is a Green Party presidential candidate, has selected Professor Butch Ware as her vice-presidential running mate.

  • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
    04·
    3 months ago

    I don’t care about a spoiler effect. At all.

    I don’t vote “against” who I’m afraid of winning. I vote “for” who I’d like to win. Not based on odds. Or fear.

    If a party is concerned, then they should get a more popular candidate.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      3 months ago

      I don’t care if you don’t care.

      If a party is concerned, then they should get a more popular candidate.

      The spoiler effect is position based, not popularity based.

      • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
        04·
        3 months ago

        The “spoiler” effect argument assumes votes belong to the two major parties, but in reality, votes are earned by candidates who align with voters’ values.

        Supporting a third party challenges the status quo, pushing major parties to address issues they might otherwise ignore, and reflects the true diversity of voter priorities.

        So no, I don’t care. And for someone who doesn’t care that I don’t care, you seem to be pushing it really hard. I’m not voting for your candidate. And I won’t stop posting articles to this community. Accept it.

        • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          3 months ago

          The “spoiler” effect argument assumes votes belong to the two major parties, but in reality, votes are earned by candidates who align with voters’ values.

          No, it doesn’t. The spoiler effect is about how the introduction of new candidates can change the outcome of an election, such that a previous winner loses because of the proximity of another candidate. Here is an example of it:

          Total voters: 765
The winner was favorable to 56% of voters
lachlan - 427
emma - 338


          Total voters: 765
The winner was favorable to 44% of voters
emma - 338
lachlan - 312
omalley - 115

          pushing major parties to address issues they might otherwise ignore

          But that never happens. The two main parties always ignore everybody except for what their establishment wants for the most part. The DNC didn’t learn from it’s lesson in 2016, it’s not going to learn from it’s lesson in 2024. And the RNC is obviously even worse at learning lessons.

          And for someone who doesn’t care that I don’t care, you seem to be pushing it really hard.

          You’re not the one I am trying to convince here.

          I’m not voting for your candidate. And I won’t stop posting articles to this community. Accept it.

          I do not care. I’m only here to disprove you wrong about your claims about the spoiler effect. You are wrong both on a mathematical level and a practical level.

          • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
            04·
            3 months ago

            And you and I have already talked about this. We’re done talking about it. I don’t believe in it, and that’s my opinion. You are free to feel the way you want. So you have proven nothing to me.

            And if you continue this conversation with me, I will block you. Again.

            • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
              0·
              3 months ago

              I don’t believe in it, and that’s my opinion

              It’s also some people’s opinion that the moon landing was faked. Not all opinions are of equal merit. And yours in particular when it comes to the spoiler effect flies in the face of the evidence. That evidence being the evidence I literally just showed you.

              The math shows it’s true. You can bury your head in the sand if you like, but you can’t make the rest of us join you. Accept it.

              And if you continue this conversation with me, I will block you. Again.

              Go for it. If you can’t handle honest critical thought, that’s on you.