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    2 months ago

    Are you aware that USA spend 10 times as much money on war and propaganda than russia does? The current government of USA is fueling a genocide in gaza and supporting the fascist israel government. There sure is russian propaganda too around but keep in mind that is in the interest of the government to cover up its wrongdoing and keep trust among the public.

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      2 months ago

      I’m aware that the US government does propaganda too, yes. I have no idea what it has to do with this.

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        USA spend 10 times more money in war and propaganda than anyone else and they are being accused of supporting a genocide. Labeling as “russian trolls” these who are saying to not support the government or vote for criminals with blood on their hands sound more like the propaganda rather than people pointing the finger at war criminals.

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      We fucking know, dude.

      That’s why we’re voting for Harris. And no, I’m not going to explain why for the 1000th fucking time.

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        That’s why we’re voting for Harris.

        You are voting for them because "The current government of USA is fueling a genocide in gaza and supporting the fascist israel government. "?

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          Because Harris is open to ceasefire pressure and Trump want’s Israel to ‘Finish the job’.

          One’s hands aren’t morally clean if you don’t vote and Trump wins. Not voting is functionally equivalent to voting for whoever wins, and if he does win with a low turnout then those who didn’t vote are responsible for whatever happens.

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              I’ve responded in detail to at least a dozen people like this saying the same stupid shit and it’s consistently a total waste of time. You just get back some idiocy like “okay U support genocide” and they don’t seem to comprehend anything at all or even read it. Kind of makes me doubt they’re serious about anything but helping Trumpy out.

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                Yeah… I still do it though, because it’s not necessarily for the person I’m replying to, but for anyone else who might stumble upon the thread and be bombarded with disinformation.

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              I get your frustration, but it is really important to keep spelling it out. I find it very frustrating to be on the receiving and of lines like I'm tired of explaining it to you people when I am earnestly engaging in a conversation for the first time, so I think it’s best to give people the benefit of the doubt that maybe they really don’t know, especially on forums where people other than those commenting will read it also.

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                We’ve been hearing this exact same stupid shit all year. It’s hard believing these people are serious. Getting Trump elected doesn’t help not ‘support genocide’ and they never, ever, ever address that.

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                Well, luckily you can tag people with most Lemmy apps, so sometimes it’s easy to know when people are acting in bad faith.

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              Don’t worry buddy, someone else typed it for you. You can now go back chilling while USA government aid israel fascist government in murdering kids

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            Because Harris is open to ceasefire

            They are the vice president of an administration that is fueling the genocide and aiding israel fascist government with “whatever it needs”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

            Israel is already finishing the job with the help of USA

            Not voting is functionally equivalent to voting for whoever wins

            Don’t try to bend logic. Voting for criminals with blood on their hands is evil and will lead to nothing good. The responsible for what happens are the one who directly supported criminals into power not the ones who didn’t.

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              One of Harris and Trump is going to be the president. Sorry but that is the reality, the time for getting a better candidate has passed.

              It is time to pick which one you want. If you don’t vote you don’t care so you accept either outcome.

              Voting is not and should not be wholly endorsing the person, but securing the best outcome from the options. You want better options then go into politics yourself.

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                US government is supporting a genocide where kids are being murdered daily. It’s time to do something about it unless you are fine with your money being send to israel fascist government and being used to murder people.