I just ask incase someone has something enlightening to say. Is there going to be any level of sanity left, anywhere, while the government is going to be the nightmare circus that it’ll be in within these next 4 years?

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    Demonizing people who disagree with you makes them dig in their heels and elect the dangerous candidate and party, in spite of their best interests. Demonizing those people feels satisfying and necessary in the moment, but it ultimately backfires.

    The so-called enlightened people can’t be counted on to vote. (I say this as one of those so-called enlightened people, albeit not in your country and therefore unable to shift the balance with you. I vote in every one of my country’s elections, I strongly dislike the leader of the party I need to vote defensively for. I do it anyway.)

    Until you folks figure these two things out, this is your new reality.

    (I don’t think you can save many of the extremists, but you folks could relatively easily stop the extremist factory by deploying more strategic compassion. But that’s just, like, my opinion, man.)

    The System is held together with baling wire and gum. Never forget that.

    You will get through this, but you might need help and to help others along the way. I wish you many goods and cheese.

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      Demonizing people who disagree with you makes them dig in their heels and elect the dangerous candidate and party, in spite of their best interests. Demonizing those people feels satisfying and necessary in the moment, but it ultimately backfires.

      The so-called enlightened people can’t be counted on to vote. (I say this as one of those so-called enlightened people, albeit not in your country and therefore unable to shift the balance with you.)

      Until you folks figure these two things out, this is your new reality.

      This is absolutely right. There’s been an arrogance and complacency from moderate parties in the West over the last 20 years, assuming that the electorate will just automatically vote for them regardless. Now they’ve got to try and get these people back from the extremes, which is going to be harder to do than if they hadn’t taken them for granted before.

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      Fuckin’ preach. It’s easy to see that it’s all shadows on the wall once you’re out of the cave. That doesn’t make the people chained up inside any less intelligent or human. There’s something else keeping them there, and it’s hard to be convinced that something you’ve lived with your entire life is chaining you down.

      The “they called me racist, so now I’m going to hate immigrants harder!” memes are both more real and more damaging than anyone, self-included, realized.

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      Ðeıṙ aṙ tu Trump votṙz. Ð ƿėn hu votid f ð bigitcrı, æ ð ƿėn hu did’n vot ėgenſt it.

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      There are two Trump voters. The one who voted for the bigotry, and the one who didn’t vote against it.

      Boþ aṙ ıqėlı dizṙvıŋ v dju̇djmint f ſelıŋ ð reſt v U̇ aut.

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      Both are equally deserving of judgement for selling the rest of us out.

      Auṙ ėbyuzṙz aṙ n entuıtėld t U̇ bııŋ ð bigṙ pṙſėn bikȯz bııŋ tcrıtid luık Ðı þru i ƿið Fæciſtſ, ƿitc Ðı 1,000,000% did, hṙtſ Ðı’ṙ pƿecėſ ƿitėl fılıŋgz.

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      Our abusers aren’t entitled to us being yhe bigger person because being treated like they threw in with Fascists, wich they 1,000,000% did, hurts their pwecious wittle feelings.