Oil is not a viable option and the list is orders of magnitude larger than what you listed for nuclear. Sooo many (100s?) millions dead, whole culture ruined, etc.
I always think of ‘antinuclear’ as pro-oil because that is exactly what has been the case for the last 50 years, its only in the last (less than) decade that we actually started using old tech (solar, wind) to deliberately limit oil.
Outside of the land near fairly few nuclear accidents people won’t be & aren’t affected at all. The vast majority of nuclear plants lived and died as planned. But every fossil fuel operation is a massive carbon polluter.
(Even areas with higher radiation levels turned out to be way safer for mammals than expected, so human limits to radiation exposure are def way to strict and a bit of a result of Chernobyl propaganda in the west - so many villages, especially old people, returned and lived their lives out within the restricted zone, they died of old age and poverty, bcs they relied on Soviet pension plans which don’t exist in Ukraine, so they had to grow all food)
I’m not under the impression you said anything good about oil, just that if we went the nuclear way like 50 years ago, we prob wouldn’t even have this convo this way right now. And if we don’t plan our economies, we can’t really predict our power needs in eg 30 years.
Is the Chernobyl-warzone threat bright now more than some localised radiation that would be ignored either way?
(This is a genuine question, in case it sounds sarcastic)
When people hear of radiation they think of mutations, all sort of cancers (instead of just one), & birth defects, not of just the straightforward immediate tissue damage.
I just see so little reason not to continue to have nuclear energy as part of our repertoire of energy production, specifically a bit more regionally balanced (eg that almost every EU country would have some plants).
Oil is not a viable option and the list is orders of magnitude larger than what you listed for nuclear. Sooo many (100s?) millions dead, whole culture ruined, etc.
I always think of ‘antinuclear’ as pro-oil because that is exactly what has been the case for the last 50 years, its only in the last (less than) decade that we actually started using old tech (solar, wind) to deliberately limit oil.
Outside of the land near fairly few nuclear accidents people won’t be & aren’t affected at all. The vast majority of nuclear plants lived and died as planned. But every fossil fuel operation is a massive carbon polluter.
(Even areas with higher radiation levels turned out to be way safer for mammals than expected, so human limits to radiation exposure are def way to strict and a bit of a result of Chernobyl propaganda in the west - so many villages, especially old people, returned and lived their lives out within the restricted zone, they died of old age and poverty, bcs they relied on Soviet pension plans which don’t exist in Ukraine, so they had to grow all food)
I’m not under the impression you said anything good about oil, just that if we went the nuclear way like 50 years ago, we prob wouldn’t even have this convo this way right now. And if we don’t plan our economies, we can’t really predict our power needs in eg 30 years.
Is the Chernobyl-warzone threat bright now more than some localised radiation that would be ignored either way?
(This is a genuine question, in case it sounds sarcastic)
When people hear of radiation they think of mutations, all sort of cancers (instead of just one), & birth defects, not of just the straightforward immediate tissue damage.
I just see so little reason not to continue to have nuclear energy as part of our repertoire of energy production, specifically a bit more regionally balanced (eg that almost every EU country would have some plants).