Robin Williams’ daughter Zelda says AI recreations of her dad are ‘personally disturbing’::Robin Williams’ daughter Zelda says AI recreations of her dad are ‘personally disturbing’: ‘The worst bits of everything this industry is’

  • Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    What about the third option, everyone gets to have the power?

    I’ve seen what Marvin Gaye and Conan Doyle’s relatives have done with the power. Dump it in the creative commons. Nobody should own the tonalities of a voice anyways, there quickly wouldn’t be any left.

    • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Considering the internet is already a hellscape of deepfake porn, let’s not take the libertarian approach to this, 'kay?

      Also, there are two major issues at hand that you are conflating.

      People aren’t doing AI recreations of Robin Williams because they love the way he said “zucchini”. They are doing it because of the novelty of hearing Robin perform their material or making him say “Happy Birthday Fred” or “Jewish Space Lizards Control Kansas” or whatever. Much like with deepfake porn, the appeal is using someone against their will for your own pleasure.

      The other aspect, and what the SAG and WGA strikes have been about (and which Robin famously preempted over twenty years ago), is training data. It is the idea of using past footage and performances to make a super actor (similar to what Square tried with FF The Spirits Within). So you might have Tom Cruise’s gait coupled with Ryan Reynolds’s chin and Hugh Jackman’s nipples and so forth. And, that is still a huge mess.

        • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          If your bad faith requirement is complete eradication, sure.

          If the goal is to vastly diminish the amount of content out there by preventing monetization and providing a legal means to pull said content? As well as to vilify the concept? Then yeah, it works.

            • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Just to check: Vilifying deepfake porn and child porn is “not a positive moral outcome”?

              Holy shit. Most libertarians at least say the quiet part quiet.

              • zurneyor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                1 year ago

                Deepfake porn is certainly debatable. Are you against rule 34 of celebrities? Of photoshopping celebrity images to make them nude? Deepfaking is just extending that idea, and if it gets popular enough no one will take nude leaks seriously anymore.

                Child porn you definitely would want to be faked. So long as they are faked, real children aren’t being hurt

        • wanderingmagus@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Prohibition of CSAM seems to be universally accepted as a thing we should keep doing. What say you to that?

    • brsrklf@jlai.lu
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      1 year ago

      In the context of close relatives being very disturbed by what is made with the person’s image, I really don’t think legally allowing absolutely everyone to do as they please with it will help.