Warning to all Brave Browser Users
Blocking variations.brave.com which is used for A/B testing could potentially break Brave’s functionalities. For me did Brave’s “forgetful browsing” feature broke which seems to be disabled by default if you block this domain.
You really just shouldn’t use brave…
Do you think we are not Brave enough.
Sorry… I will see myself out.
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Cringe.
@eya May I ask why you think that? I their afe good reasons to don’t use Firefox either…
Brave is an ad company. Use a privacy-centric browser like hardened firefox, librewolf, or ungoogled chromium.
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You’d need a very good reason to not use Firefox given that it’s all that stands against a Google monopoly on web standards. I was using a Chromium-based browser myself until Opera and Microsoft both abandoned their own browser engines - after that I couldn’t possibly justify not supporting Firefox.
I have made an entire post detailing (some) of the reasons why you shouldn’t use Brave.
Its better than Chrome, Edge, and any other proprietary spyware browser
Firefox based browsers exits and if you need chromium based there are also other degooled browser available.
Gaba degool
True but don’t you think brave is better than chrome?
In the same way that I think 3rd degree burns are better than 4th degree burns
I think you mean 3rd degree burns compared to second degree burns but I get what you are saying
? 4th degree burn is a real thing
True but its basicly the same as 3rd degree burn. You will basicly never see it in the field
Yes, but when good options exist, why give thought to which bad option is less bad?
Because we need less google control. Also brave is pretty user friendly
Brave is chromium based, which gives Google control over web standards.
Firefox is the good option. It is not controlled by Google.
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Yeah but they add other tracking to it and all the crypto bs. And im not keen on sponsoring a company which has a ceo who supports anti-gay politicians financially and then denies it.
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brave is degoogled
sort of
Check out Vivaldi then.
It falls in the proprietary category
Didn’t they announce that they are source available?
Its still not Foss. Unless its under a free software license its a hard no for me.
At least its not chrome though
so what you want people to use opera or Chromnius
None of these. Use Firefox.
think before you post, you assumed i didn’t use Firefox
u implied it, einstein, when u suggested the only options are chromium based
Dude! Name calling, so cool.
You’re right, Einstein is a name… 🤔
wow, sarcasm, how nice
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Use a fork of firefox
Or just use firefox?
Stock Firefox is almost as bad as Google Chrome
Idk wtf you’re saying. You mean stock firefox as in firefox with no settings changed? If so, it’s not great but in no way as bad as chrome. That’s just a ridiculous statement. That being said, hardened Firefox is fine and it’s not very hard to do. By harden i mean common sense tweaks. I don’t use arkenfox or anything. I think it’s overkill at that point.
I wouldn’t say arkenfox is overkill. It’s the easiest way to get rid of all the spyware that comes with Firefox by default.
What spyware…
on mobile yes same for brave but much much less
what?
Think they might be having a stroke or something…
Anyoneserioius about privacy should not be using a chromium browser, and should definitely not be using brave.
Firefox is safer and tbh, has probably the best UX and aesthetics out of anyone. Brave is garbage.
For incognito browsing I recommend Librewolf, a firefox fork. If you want anything more secure, you should start looking into tor
As a Firefox user, the only thing Brave does that I wish Firefox would copy is their fingerprinting resistance. I know Firefox does have fingerprinting resistance but it’s nowhere near the same level as Brave.
Use privacy badger extension
No. Firefox with RFP, Arkenfox user.js, Librewolf or Tor-Browser unifies your fingerprint. Its universal among users. Brave scrambles it, while some may say that is actually not a real fingerprint and can be detected, making you stand out extremely
Just to be clear, are you saying Firefox with fingerprinting resistance used in conjunction with Arkenfox user.js provides fingerprint unification, similar to what Tor browser does? I’ll have to check that out.
I think both approaches are valid tbh. Having a unique fingerprint obviously uniquely identified you, but if it’s randomised then your browsing sessions can’t (in theory) be linked.
Yes. Arkenfox to my knowledge is 1:1 Tor configs. Librewolf is similar to arkenfox, no real differences afaik.
For regular browsing though, this means that everything is always deleted. So if you may change some configs, you mayyy be fingerprintable.
Good thing though, different from Tor-Browser is, that it deletes everything without using the private browsing mode. This means, that it has way more capabilities, and saving session for example has no fingerprinting effect really, as favicons and cache can be cleared.
The problem with randomized UserAgent is afaik, that in firefox it cant really fake a complete, real browser, fonts and all. So it would be very nice 90% of the time, but big tracking sites would know exactly who you are
I’ll look into this. Thank you for the information.
So if you may change some configs, you mayyy be fingerprintable.
You are fingerprintable either way unless you go all out. Going full on Arkenfox/Librewolf mode (with all settings enabled that decrease convenience) you can at most fool naive fingerprinting. For the more advanced one you need Tor.
And even for naive fingerprinting, unless you use Tor or a VPN (which you would have to trust) your IP alone + the fact that you use FF (which a few % of people worldwide do) along with some other basic info about your PC will make you very unique.
A good VPN is a must of course.
The Chameleon extension could solve some of the fingerprinting issues as it can randomize the browser and OS info that is sent.
If anyone who downvotes wants to jump in and explain why instead of doing drive-bys that would be appreciated. I don’t see any reason why this browser extension wouldn’t be an effective tool if it does what it says.
safer?
Brave is just a shill for Google mothership. Firefox is leading privacy and security through browsers.
Firefox has a weaker sandbox than chromium and less mature site isolation and therefore has lower security. privacy is a different story, but remember you’re only as private as you are secure so Firefox is inherently not that private assuming a malicious site escapes the sandbox.
I’m fully against chrome’s growing monopoly as well as Google surveillance capitalism but let’s not be so dramatic with the “google mother ship” nonsense.
using chromium as a base does not equal data being sent back to Google, just like using Android as a base doesn’t inherently send data back to Google.
i disagree ahola looks better but i still use iceraven on my phone and firefox on pc
I disagree. Firefox is fine, but saying chromium is spyware because its primarily maintained by google is like saying android is spyware.
Additionally chromium browsers are arguably more secure than Firefox, and has more advanced sand boxing. So much so that graphine OS used chromium instead of Firefox for their vanadium browser.
Only thing I agree with is not using brave… Cause well… They fishy.
I truly appreciate the perspective of this post. I would like to switch fully to Firefox and support the cause. Unfortunately I have a PWA addiction and that is the only thing keeping me living my shameful hybrid browser life.
Is it a weak reason? Probably. But it’s an honest one. If Mozilla hopped on PWAs, I’d be totally fine bouncing from Brave and joining the Chromium rebellion.
But they’re the only ones blocking ads on YouTube for iOS 😞
The only reason I still use it. I like Orion but it’s not quite there yet. Not really sure what other iOS alternatives there are to chose from.
YouTube ads are served on the same server as the video… So they would have to filter it through one of their servers and block the elements and stream it to you.
So if you’re using them for privacy… you better trust them a lot because they would have equivalent info as google.
You can add something like AltStore to an unjailbroken iPhone and sideload a YouTube app with adblock built in.
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@themoonisacheese If you think so 🤷♂️
I’ll be the one to stay on topic instead of joining the omgchromebad crowd.
My question/concern would be, why would a browser need to connect to an outside source in order to Forget your browsing? What would it need to reference?
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Actually Firefox is on version 118 now!
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