No you shouldn’t. Google has enough data already. If it is not self hosted it can’t be trusted.
The idea that you should fly with exclusively self-hosted approaches is equally absurd to the idea that you should just blindly trust everyone.
Plus, if they have, as you say, “enough” data already, then surely giving them more doesn’t actually hurt you in any way, shape or form?
yeah, self hosted may be a bit too much for everyone, but they should at least make its training database open as ai is biased on whatever data it is trained on
eg. like how some smart taps won’t work for black people as the company just didn’t trained the sensors to work with dark skin
imo, nextcloud took the best approach here, allowing users to utilize chatgpt 4 if needed, while still making a totally in-house FLOSS option available
why not?
what is so absurd about code running in an users own device?
Because it’s just unnecessary. Due to their nature, you want a few services reachable from anywhere, anyways. There’s no reason for the average consumer to acquire hardware for this purpose. Just rent the service or the hardware elsewhere, which also reduces upfront cost which is ideal in situations where you cannot know whether you’ll stick with the service.
Again, it’s either extreme that’s absurd. You don’t need your own video streaming platform for example. In rare cases, sure. For the vast majority of people, Netflix is a much service however.
hard disagree on that one, the opposite is true. we end up with companies centralizing it on huge datacenters and not even being able to profit from it (services like youtube are unprofitable). best solution would be a federated service. I digress though because video platforms are a completely different beast.
something as personal like ai assistants should utilize the processing power i already have available, wasteful not to.
also its a BAD idea to hand out data for something so personal to google yet again. lets not keep repeating that mistake if we can avoid it.
I would love to self-host something like that. But I do not have a good enough GPU to do something like that
Newer Pixels are having hardware chips dedicated to AI in them, which could be able to run these locally. Apple is planning on doing local LLMs too. There’s been a lot of development on “small LLMs”, which have a ton of benefits, like being able to study LLMs easier, run them on lower specs, and saving power on LLM usage.
Smaller LLMs have huge performance tradeoffs, most notably in their abilities to obey prompts. Bard has billions of parameters, so mobile chips wouldn’t be able to run it.
That’s right now, small LLMs have been the focus of development just very recently. And judging how fast LLMs have been improving, I can see that changing very soon.
Yes, and that selfhosted code is written by someone else - it cannot be trusted.
This selfhosted, selfwritten code is ok, but wait the hardware is not defined by you - it cannot be trusted!
Ridiculous take.
There’s a vast difference between using a cloud service that definitely spies on you, and a self-hosted solution that you can ensure doesn’t.
The ridiculous take is the joke:
but wait the hardware is not defined by you -it cannot be trusted!
Ridiculous conspiracy about “definitely spies”, especially in the android community.
I remember someone tried to sue Google for reading his emails, because Anti-Spam must “read” mails to detect spams.
Anyways, for people who are afraid of cloud spions nothing is changed, for people who are interested in Google assistant boosting GA with bard is a promising improvement.
In this case it’s less about “spying” and more about data being used for training.
a self-hosted solution that you can ensure doesn’t.
Being self-hosted in no way, shape, or form ensures that it doesn’t spy on you. You’re still putting trust in a third-party to keep their promises. The average user lacks the know-how to audit code. Hell, the average user wouldn’t be able to figure out self-hosting in the first place.
You don’t have to audit code to ensure it doesn’t call home.
Okay, what can the average user do to ensure this, then?
It’s actually quite easy to see if an app is phoning home. Also easy to prevent.
Did you write the driver for the keyboard you wrote that on? Silly and completely unrealistic take. The world relies on trust to operate. It’s not black and white.
This was a joke. I have problems neither with the keyboard driver nor with cloud services as such. Both can be ok to use or not - one needs to apply common sense.
Yeah hard pass for me dog. Are hey not currently in trouble for manipulating search results? What makes you think bard will be any different. Just look at bing chat.
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Amazon Alexa does significantly better when it comes to recognizing these basic commands and for smart home controls. Extremely quick and consistent. It’s useless for web search question though.
And then you try in french and suddenly 80% of the command result somehow to a kitchen recipe one
You may need to retrain the voice recognition
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Oh dang, yeah it’s probably the language. Wouldn’t surprise me that other languages aren’t being prioritized by Google, which is a shame. German’s an awesome language.
Edit cause I’m gonna look stupid for saying German without actually checking. I’m high, blame the grass. Whatever language it is looks awesome
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Dang, that was gonna be my second guess
And as Rick Osterloh, Google SVP of Devices & Services, stated in a recent interview with Michael Fisher (MrMobile), “You probably use YouTube, you probably use Google search, you probably use Gmail. You already use Google; if you want the best place to use all of your Google products, it’s going to be on a Pixel.”
Just like Apple, Google would ideally want full capture of their ecosystem.
The AI features seem useful but Google will likely do one of the following with it within 3 years of release:
A. Kill the feature
B. Nerf the feature to an unusuable level
C. Shove advertising into the feature at every possible opportunity
C and B are definitely happening in the next months, A will start by the end of next year, as support for Bard dwindles and Google moves on to the next AI assistant that has half the features and polish of the previous one.
Based on how full-in they’re going with Pixel and AI, it’ll most likely be a combination of #2 and #3.
They’ll abandon the current version for some other incompatible version, leaving everyone using the current version SOL.
Google can’t be trusted for long-term product and feature support.
The last thing I want any AI to ever do is to purchase something for me.
I hardly ever want my own intelligence to buy random shit
Wow, I can talk to the hallucination machine! What an innovation!
… God, imagine if this all this effort went towards fusion power or space infrastructure. What a waste.
Bard is somehow worse than ChatGPT I hate it
really? they’re on the same level imo (they both suck equally)
All I want to know is, will it argue back with me, because the assistant is already a massive smartass, if it can have a proper argument, then I’m all in baby!
I literally just want better support for extensions again
To me, it feels like the final frontier for phones before a pivot to virtual/augmented reality becomes more tangible.
I’ll believe it when I see it. What will likely happen is that it’ll start out good then Google will slowly neuter it and make it dumber and dumber until it’s essentially useless like Assistant
The only use case I’ve ever found for assistant is setting up an alarm for when I’m too hungover to find my glasses. That “set an alarm for 845” works a treat sometimes
