People want leftist policies, they want leftist leaders.
The Dems haven’t had a primary since they almost lost the whole party to Bernie Sanders in 2016, and they have shown they would rather hand the country to the Republicans than sit down with their rich donors and let them know they have to make some concessions for the American people.
Funny thing: if you do polling and don’t mention which party sponsors a policy, leftish (more like social-democratic) policies are extremely popular. Associate those same policies with the Democrats and support drastically drops.
People elect right wing leaders when they are afraid and uneducated. And Covid plus all the reverberating economic issues weve had since then made people scared.
When we see a lot of these right wing leaders fail to do anything then we will flip flop back to leftists
That might be true. But the solution to that, is not ”move further to the left” or ”wait for the right to fuck up”. It’s then to help people not to be afraid, to educate them.
I very much hope you’re right, but I’ve seen this trend for over 20 years in Sweden now. With basically zero indication it’s turning.
You’re welcome to try to educate them, if you can manage to penetrate their egos.
I’ve tried educating them, but it’s kind of hard when they already beleive fake bullshit and literally can’t be reasoned with because religious people don’t require reason to believe something.
Religon shamed them into hating themselves and their neigbors, so I find shame to be a much more effective tool, even if they don’t manage to self reflect they’ll probably feel stupid and shut up like they were trained.
Even leftist countries are drawing towards right wing extremists.
And in those countries, we see the same Russian interference, oligarch money and fascist-controlled media. Another con artist re-running a playbook is not a grassroots movement.
This response makes no sense. You’re responding to someone saying the people still want leftist policies by saying “I agree, they don’t want leftist policies”
The neoliberals are the same as Republicans.
People want leftist policies, they want leftist leaders.
The Dems haven’t had a primary since they almost lost the whole party to Bernie Sanders in 2016, and they have shown they would rather hand the country to the Republicans than sit down with their rich donors and let them know they have to make some concessions for the American people.
Do they though? Even leftist countries are drawing towards right wing extremists.
There are few places were leftist policies and leaders are doing well… and sure, they don’t exist in the US. But they do at many other places.
Funny thing: if you do polling and don’t mention which party sponsors a policy, leftish (more like social-democratic) policies are extremely popular. Associate those same policies with the Democrats and support drastically drops.
Not to be mean but this is literally propaganda.
People elect right wing leaders when they are afraid and uneducated. And Covid plus all the reverberating economic issues weve had since then made people scared.
When we see a lot of these right wing leaders fail to do anything then we will flip flop back to leftists
Not if Democrats have anything to say about it. We’ll get milquetoast corpodems or republican fascists and there is no other choice. Yay.
And people will vote for them anyway because if their personal economy is bad they will vote out the incumbent.
After 2016 and Republicans fucking everything up for 2 years they got recked in the midterms.
The same will happen again.
That might be true. But the solution to that, is not ”move further to the left” or ”wait for the right to fuck up”. It’s then to help people not to be afraid, to educate them.
I very much hope you’re right, but I’ve seen this trend for over 20 years in Sweden now. With basically zero indication it’s turning.
Just getting worse.
You’re welcome to try to educate them, if you can manage to penetrate their egos.
I’ve tried educating them, but it’s kind of hard when they already beleive fake bullshit and literally can’t be reasoned with because religious people don’t require reason to believe something.
Religon shamed them into hating themselves and their neigbors, so I find shame to be a much more effective tool, even if they don’t manage to self reflect they’ll probably feel stupid and shut up like they were trained.
And in those countries, we see the same Russian interference, oligarch money and fascist-controlled media. Another con artist re-running a playbook is not a grassroots movement.
Have I said anything else? My point was that there seem to be few indications of the people actually wanting leftist politics, and leftist leaders.
This response makes no sense. You’re responding to someone saying the people still want leftist policies by saying “I agree, they don’t want leftist policies”