I recently posted asking if Kindle Unlimited is a good value for SF because I was reading a lot and it was expensive. Some of you suggested I try the library instead. I’m in Los Angeles, so I got a digital library card for the Los Angeles Public Library.
I had noticed that a lot of the books I had already read were on KU, but not many of the ones on my list to read were. That sort of makes sense because I read a number of series books (mostly trilogies) and KU seems to mostly cover older things but not more recent popular works. Unfortunately my reading list is now mostly up to recent popular stuff.
The library has a similar issue: they have the recent/popular stuff, but there’s usually a waiting list for it. I reserved three books that had different wait times, the longest being two months out, but the shortest came up available the next day.
It works nice. When you get the book, you can read it on their web interface or app, but you also have them send it to your Kindle app, which is what I did. It shows up like an Amazon purchase, but with no cost, and then pops up in your Kindle library. You can have up to 30 books on hold (in your queue, waiting to be available) at a time, so depending on how fast you read, you can reserve a bunch so you’re in line while you’re reading others.
I think this will work good for me. It’s all completely free, and I had spent over $200 on books in the last few months, so it’s a giant savings of I keep this up. Thanks again.
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The purpose of libraries has simply expanded. A lot of people do still use it for books, but this being an online forum there’s likely a selection bias at play. People learn to go to the library when that’s the main place they have access to stuff, often because purchasing or finding it digitally is out of the price-range. As a consequence, those big beautiful libraries in the nice part of town are often pretty empty but the cramped one near us poor folk is full of families and their kids every weekend.
But libraries offer so much more than books. They have digital services, often with access to computers (again, mostly used by those who can’t afford a personal computer), and research assistance. Librarians know how to research and find sources and are an invaluable help when trying to find research on a topic. My local has community events where someone comes in and gives presentations or activities for kids often. Libraries are a community project that brings people together. Unfortunately, public libraries, being not for profit, don’t have extensive funds so they don’t have the reach they used to. Public sentiment has also turned away from libraries for a variety of reasons and in different ways. The capitalist-centric world-view lends to people’s appreciation for owning things and improving your own station while shying away from improving the group condition. Libraries whole purpose is antithetical to that world-view, so they’re ignored at best, actively fought against at worst.
This is, of course, an American centric rant, since that’s where I am and can’t speak to the conditions elsewhere.
When I was very young, my parents took me to the library to pick books to read because (a) I was reading a lot and (b) we didn’t have much money. As I got older, my dad’s business started doing very well, and I wasn’t chewing though books as fast, so most books became gifts and the library was just a place to do research for school reports (no Internet then).
And that’s just kind of what stuck with me - as an adult I’ve never really thought about it for pleasure reading, but it’s nice to rediscover. My only concern is that I’m not really supporting the authors well, and I probably can afford to.
It just feels weird to me that digital version of a book is treated as having limited amount…
It’s just bytes in some computer.
Why would user A need to wait until user B is finished with the book, before being able to read it?It’s just the cost model. The authors usually write as their primary source of income, so they’re selling each book. If they just sold one and everyone copied it, it would either have to be tremendously expensive or it wouldn’t pay their bills. I brought my kids up not to pirate music and movies for the same reason - it doesn’t support the artists. I’m actually a bit uncomfortable using the library for the same reason since I can afford the books if I just reprioritize a bit.
The same happens with movies in theater. When we switched to digital, a decades ago, they was like “everyone can have the movies at the same time, not like with limited physical copies”.
It was a lie. Sure, everyone can have a copy on the release day, but not everyone will have the time-key for delock it from X days since Y date. So some theaters will have it first weeks, others only the third ones.
Again, this is not because the tech is not enabling this, but an attempt to extort more money (for earlier delock) from the theaters is there.
Hey, just so you know, you can sign up for multiple library cards and Libby will give you the option to choose the shortest hold times.
I know San Bernardino has a free digital card for for CA residents, and I think the Sacramento library has a similar situation but you need to get a card in person.
Oh, interesting. Maybe a silly question, but is it ethical? I mean do they intentionally include people who don’t live in the area, or is it just a loophole?
You need to get a library card, and some libraries have an aegis that covers larger groups of people (for eg all Californians), while others only cover those that live in a given city/town.
So no, it’s not unethical, unless you’re pretending to live in CA (or wherever) when you don’t, in which case why bother with getting a card and app and just torrent.
Okay, thanks, that makes sense. I really try to live ethically and not game the system.
Just find libraries in your city first, then check the counties and neighboring cities, as they usually have reciprocal agreements, or may be part of a regional network for ebooks. Then check the state (in my experience, state libraries are open to anyone that lives in the state, but you generally have to show up at the branch with an ID and proof of residency).
Okay, thanks.
I do this too!
Good to hear!
Just use libgen and email it to your Kindle. Free books forever.
What’s libgen?
Pirated ebooks, most people use it to avoid buying insanely expensive college textbooks.
College textbooks are a racket, for sure, especially when the teacher requires an expensive book that he or she wrote, which I had happen more than once. In one case, we didn’t use that book a single time in class.
Overdrive is greedy. They charge libraries obscene amounts of money for access to their catalog, and most libraries can only afford to pay for a fraction of what’s available.
And it’s not just the new, high-demand titles that are a problem. I have one overdrive book that’s been on hold for over a year.
It’s “The Sun Also Rises” by Hemingway.
It’s overdrive the same as Libby? I think Libby is what my reservations are through.
Yup. Overdrive is the service, Libby is the app.
You can read that for free any time, as it is in the public domain. Gutenberg has it in a bunch of formats. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/67138
Someone else said you can have multiple libraries, so you might try that. I see for mine that there’s a two week wait, with about one person per the 15 copies they have waiting.
