• jet@hackertalks.com
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    1 year ago

    To be fair. Mozilla foundation is shady. They keep pushing things that don’t follow their core mission. That try to expand their brand.

    You can use Mozilla to build solid privacy respecting systems, but Firefox out of the box not so much. They’re better than Google, but that’s a low fucking bar.

    Mullvad browser, Tor browser, mull for Android - all use the core Firefox open source engine, to make privacy respecting programs that work out of the box with privacy respecting defaults.

    So I would say Mozilla is a good guy in this conversation, but not a saint.

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      1 year ago

      They keep trying to make money so they don’t go under if/when Google pulls the plug on their easy money.

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        Fair enough. I’m glad it works for you.

        For what it’s worth mullvad browser works for all of my use cases, I haven’t found anything it doesn’t work for.

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            You can open up the no script options and click on disable globally.

            Sorry to hear mullvad’s not loading anything. Seems like a weird bug

            Setting the default browser, is a problem on Windows, there is a workaround I could dig up for you if you want. But basically you have to make a script and then modify the registry to point to that script as the default browser. It’s a pain in the butt but it works. Thankfully on Linux, and Mac OS it just works as the default browser

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                On Qubes it just worked after I did --register-app

                Their GitHub has an issue open for it in Linux, I see that the tor project is working on a solution as well to make it more elegant.

                But since it doesn’t load any web pages for you, you don’t want to make it your default anyway.

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      Though they are transparent with the fact that they are doing it. I’m not a fan of it either, but it’s not too shady when they’re open about it IMO.

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        Fair enough, they aren’t evil to be sure.

        The Mozilla telemetry, pocket, Mozilla synchronization, experiments, the new tab page basically being an advertisement page. That leaves the sour taste in my mouth, so I don’t trust them because of that… Shady good guy vibes:)

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          They’re doing what they think they need to justify their existence, and although I personally believe being just a great browser would be enough I appreciate their communication around their ventures. It’s not great, but it’s not like they’re installing malware in the background.

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            https://itsfoss.com/firefox-looking-glass-controversy/

            They get pretty close sometimes. I respect their mojo, but I don’t install vanilla Firefox anymore. On anything. For any reason. I don’t trust them anymore.

            I wish them the best, if I could donate directly to Firefox development I would, but it’s impossible with them. So I don’t. I donate to mullvad, I donate to the Tor project, and I donate to servo. That’s what I can do to make sure we maintain an open and free web