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downpunxx@kbin.social to Science Fiction@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Foundation vs Dune

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Foundation vs Dune

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downpunxx@kbin.social to Science Fiction@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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  • Magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh
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    vs The Expanse: we are headed for some bleak imperialist nonsense but humanity’s salvation will come from… Nevermind, we’re fucked.

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      Just most of us, except Amos. Amos will be fine.

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        He is that guy

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        He’s got the shotgun, you’ve got the briefcase. All in the game, though.

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        Nothing this guy can’t shrug off. Litterally.

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      The expense always looked like almost utopic to me.

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        Truly ? What aspects of it ?

        I mean they do have universal basic income on earth but apart from that humanity is all kinds of fucked. And it doesn’t exactly get better as the story progresses.

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          The fact that the earth is even united and not completely screwed is already a great start. It was even recovering from climate change before Inaros.

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            The earthers are not doing that bad in the beginning that is true. But the rest of the system have it rough.

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            The earth is united like the United States is united. The tribes just got bigger is all. Instead of NATO vs BRICS, the Expanse universe has Earthers vs Martians vs Belters. And people are suffering hard on earth as evidenced during Bobby’s trip to the ocean.

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              Everyone starts to come together in the last book though.

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                In a very… Specific way.

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            To be fair to Inaros he did end global warming and the overpopulation of earth.

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              Inaros did nothing wrong.

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        You mean dystopic right … right?

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          Not at all. It always looked like something in between for me. Humanity is still struggling but moving forward, and most people live under various kind of regimes but no big bad Empire.

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            Well the belters have it pretty rough and Mars is basically totalitarian. And without spoiling anything I’d suggest you keep reading, it is worth it :).

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            Winston Duarte has entered the chat.

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              The chat has become Winston Duarte.

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            So you would enjoy the belter life much?

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              Belters are a vast minority, though.

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                So?

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