The Grizzlies not only went 18-11 with Tillman as the starting C last season, a huge percentage of those games were played without Ja Morant as well. Throughout most the second half of the season the Grizzlies started Tyus Jones and Xavier Tillman. They have experience in playing without Adams in the lineup.
I believe that Steven Adams is both a big loss for the Grizzlies yet a loss that has been overblown, and that’s in part because Adams’ effectiveness was unlikely to be at his usual standard with his knee injury. A PCL injury is difficult to play on because it affects your ability to bend and spring on your knee. This is the kind of injury that takes a long time to both heal from and really return to play at your best from and Adams is 30 now with a lot of miles on the tires.
Xavier Tillman is a much different player to Steven Adams. He’s clearly much smaller. Not the enforcer Adams is and definitely not the rebounder. He’s a solid passer but not the facilitator Adams is. What he does bring that Adams doesn’t to the same degree is an ability to run the floor in transition and be a source of transition dunks. He runs hard in transition and is a pretty stout athlete. Nobody is Stevo as a screener but Tillman is a very good screen setter himself. He isn’t a great perimeter shooter but he isn’t incapable from the outside…and he is pretty good at ducking in to the basket from the perimeter and creating easy baskets that way.
Tillman slides his feet well on the perimeter and can hold his own against wings. He’s legitimately switchy and he gives the Grizzlies a starting 5 along with new addition Marcus Smart and returning-to-health Ziaire Williams a starting 5 that will be able to switch 1-5. They’ll be a pretty athletic starting 5, and they’ll be a pretty versatile starting 5. Marcus Smart is a great post player and great post playmaker and that’s something I think could be utilized well with Tillman’s off ball activity and his strong finishing ability.
Tillman isn’t a great paint defender because of his size…he gives up a pretty high % at the rim. But his perimeter switchiness does make up for that a fair bit and he grades out as a positive defender overall. He’s physical and does it without fouling.
I don’t think the Grizzlies of course are a better team without a 100% Steven Adams. They’re not. Who knew one poor judgement to dive for a ball in de-facto garbage time would end up this way. There is a real likelihood we have seen the end of Steven Adams’ prime. Xavier Tillman can’t provide everything Adams did but he’s a good player who will add his own wrinkles to the Grizzlies. This year they’re bigger on the perimeter than they were last season without him which should aid their perimeter defense and their rebounding. Rebounding is absolutely the biggest concern for the Grizzlies but I think their starting 5 with Tillman is still poised to be elite defensively, gonna be a fast paced team that could drown many of their opponents, and I feel confident about they remaining a good team this year and in the first 25 without Ja.
Do you all feel the same way? Tell me what you think.
Tillman is a very underrated player. They will be fine for the most part with Tillman in but they may need some depth at the center position. But he’s pretty good.
I think they will miss both Adams and Clarke all season and definitely Ja for the first 25 games.
As much as I like Snack Randolph I don’t know if he can survive playing a fair amount of minutes against NBA bigs for a whole season. I feel like Bane and JJJ will both go off scoring wise but I think they will be a .500 team before getting Ja back.
Grizz need to make a move for a starting caliber center asap if they want to save the season.
Lofton came in to preseason 30lbs over weight. This may be his last season in the league. We just need a good rebounder off the bench.
Agreed, the starting 5 is really going to lack playmaking
Tillman rose to the occasion in the playoffs. obviously Grizzlies had a lot of problems, but he struck me as a bright spot. It’s not like this injury shit is anything new and with Ja and Adams out, whether or not they win he should have some good games.
Grizzlies are gonna need to gang rebound. Honestly they should package some of their young players + draft pick and go get a legit center.
No need to waste a year waiting for Adam, whose career might be done.
Rob Williams is probably semi-available if they overpay.
Celtics West 😢
He’d be a good target.
Portland needs to, and probably will tank this year. I can see them being sellers at the deadline and shedding some combination of Grant, Brogdon, and Timelord
Well last season they had Tyus Jones, Brandon Clarke, Steven Adams, and Dillon Brooks. The only guy replacing them is Marcus Smart. With a stacked west I expect they’ll struggle without Ja.
Without Adams we finished 11th in rebounds during that stretch because we are a paint protective team that has alot of dudes in the paint.
It’s hard to judge last years team to this year’s team. Our starters only played 11 games together. As soon as one would come back from injury another one would go out.
Adams was a 1 of 1 on a 12 million dollar contract. There is no replacing him. We will most likley bring in a guy off the streets and pair him with X and Lofton Jr and revisiting around trade deadline if need be.
Grizz can overcome the loss of Adams and that’s with efficiency. Not bringing back Brooks was the first step
X is a solid player. Although he looks 34 he’s actually 24. He gets better every year. Snack Randolph is a cheat code with his ball skills. He will be able to pull the defender out of the paint. He’s still raw but the talent is there
I think they’ll add another big during the season
I think they’ll be slightly over .500 then get back to their regular schedule when Ja comes back. Really they should still be a top 6 seed this season
These Grizzlies posts are such cope.
They’ll be a playoff team, but they’re not going to be anything special.
I agree with you. I don’t think they’re a contender without Adams…for now. The season hasn’t begun yet and moves can and will be made. Right now they’re not. But I do think they’ll be fine going forward.