Hi all,

Around six months ago I posted here for advice after I noticed a something stuck under the date window of my submariner. I wouldn’t be so bothered had it not been smack bang in the middle of the date window and the magnification making it so obvious. You all suggested I send it in under warranty which I happily did. I asked my AD if I was being pedantic, but they affirmed that being a sub, it was incredibly unlikely that something had somehow worked it’s way into the case. This was likely something that had happened during production and was definitely worth sending in.

Rolex actually took the issue more seriously than I expected. They requested it for full servicing rather than simply have the in house watch maker do a repair as they wanted to inspect the movement to make sure that the issue wasn’t a symptom of something more significant.

The watch arrived back around six weeks later and I immediately noticed that the crown felt “heavy” when trying to wind. I didn’t really think anything of it as it had obviously been serviced and passed quality inspection, I thought maybe they’d been overzealous with the amount of oil or something like that, but that’s fine. I had it on my wrist less than two weeks when the date wheel became stuck at midnight. It immediately righted itself when I pulled out the crown but the watch felt “crunchy” when trying to wind and I realised that the date wheel was actually stuck and could not be changed with the crown.

I took it back to my AD who was flustered to say the least, they said they’d never once seen issue with a watch after servicing and I can believe them. It was sent back as a priority case and was back with me no more than two weeks later. I’m not sure if this service was rushed, or it really was handled as a priority, but the watch came back feeling even worse. The movement now crackled when wound and lo and behold, no less than a week later, the date wheel failed again.

So back it goes. This was a month ago and I got the call yesterday that it was ready to collect. The first thing I did was to try to wind the movement, lo and behold it’s worse still and now feels like the movement is just grinding against itself. My AD wouldn’t even let me leave with the watch, even before I stated my opinion they said that this was in no way acceptable and needed to be sent back.

Frustratingly, Rolex doesn’t disclose anything about their servicing so we have no clue as to what the actual issue is. In fact, they refuse to give any detail at all. My AD has raised this as a complaint but I feel like I’m forever going to be plagued by this issue and really think it’s time Rolex replace the watch. Could I please have some advice on what to do next? Has anyone ever had a similar situation?

TL;DR: Sent off for servicing, remove something stuck under the date window. Date wheel stuck after servicing and movement crunchy. Sent off twice more, get’s worse each time. What to do.

Edit: Here’s a nice video for you of the movement just after servicing. Sound up. https://streamable.com/uvyybi

  • marco918@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    What’s going on is that the watch is going back to the same tech to correct his/her work but they are too incompetent to fix it properly.

  • lmmo1977@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Ask for a replacement. It’s fair to get the manufacturer a chance (or two) to fix the issue. But if they cannot, you might be with a unit that will never be right. Ask for a full movement replacement or a new unit.

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      11 months ago

      I wouldn’t be shocked if you could actually “lemon law” something like a watch. The magnussen moss warranty act does not apply to just cars. 4 attempts to service is considered beyond unreasonable and it would be an almost immediate voluntary buyback from an auto manufacturer.

      (Assuming OP is in the US)

    • gavint84@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Yeah I bought a new quartz(!) Tag F1 from an AD and it lost time when I wasn’t wearing it (really, I took it off at night and in the morning it would be slow but kept time fine when I was wearing it).

      I took it back and they swapped the battery. Did the same thing the next night.

      I said I wanted a new watch, and they said they would repair it. We agreed a compromise that they had two weeks to repair it I think, and if it wasn’t fixed in two weeks they’d give me a new one. I got the new one without any further fuss.

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    11 months ago

    God knows what’s going on. What we do know is this is entirely unacceptable at this stage. Unbelievable how poor that QC is to send back this watch again and again.

    Asking for a replacement at this point is entirely acceptable and totally fair.

  • improvthismoment@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’ve heard some issues with the Rolex 32xx movements, hard to see how widespread it is. Also hard to claim that Rolex’s are the best quality watches out there in their price range.

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      11 months ago

      At least the AD seems to be treating the customer correctly, that’s a change from the usual stories.

      • Daft_Hunk@alien.topOPB
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        11 months ago

        I feel like I have to reinstate that my AD, from the very beginning before I’d even purchased anything, has been nothing but utterly brilliant in every manner. I feel very lucky. It’s been a genuine delight to get to know them. No bullshit, no hoop jumping. Realistic about wait times and my chances of getting the watches I sought. It’s been an extremely positive experience.

  • WatchandThings@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Not Rolex, but I had the date wheel issue with Tudor BB GMT. I had sent it back to be repaired twice under warranty and it kept on having issues. After having the same issue after second repair, I had complained about the Tudor to my AD and they decided to let me return the watch for full store credit. The issue had dragged on for 2 years at this point and if I tried selling the watch I would have taken about 1k hit, so I was very happy to take my AD’s offer for the store credit for original price paid. So I got rid of the watch that way, and haven’t bought a Tudor since.

    Also one of the time I sent the BB GMT in, it had gained a bad scratch on the side from the service department. I didn’t make a fuss since I meant to wear it like a tool watch and have it gain scratches anyway, but I know it would have upset many people if they received their watch like that.

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      11 months ago

      I had my eye on a BB GMT for awhile and never pulled the trigger because of that exact issue. I was really less than impressed with Tudor never being forthcoming with what was obviously a pervasive problem.

  • Frontier21@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Just ask them to replace it with a new one. They can sell the serviced one very easily. I’d be shocked if they even batted an eye at your request.

  • -ceoz@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Ask for replacement and threaten with whatever consumer rights authority you have in your country (not in a disrespectful way but remind them of the option).

    Maybe they can offer you a Daytona at MSRP as an apology