• Trump’s approval has taken a substantial swing of 9.6 points, from a net positive of 6.2 points in late January to a net negative of 3.4 points in mid-April.
  • Trump’s loss in support among Hispanic and young adults has been especially steep.
  • The president has not persuaded Americans that foreign countries and producers will bear the burden of higher tariffs, or that the gain will be worth the pain.
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    2 days ago

    Yes they were significant enough to listen to, but at some point people need to take accountability.

    How many more fucking decades before they’re listened to, then? Because it’s starting to look like “fucking never and we hate you lol.”

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      22 hours ago

      Yes, they should listen, but it’s two separate things. Regardless what the DNC does, each person has a choice, a chance cast a choice.

      People had a choice, they could have impacted the outcome and choose not to. Those people, by not doing anything, were accepting that the worser outcome could happen, and they were ok with that. If they weren’t, they would have taken action, within their power, to prevent it.

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          They probably won’t. But that isn’t even the point, it’s the deflection. People had an option to vote. They didn’t. They are complicit.

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              16 hours ago

              So just discredit my point of view by labeling me as the enemy. Sounds like you’re in a cult sir.

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                16 hours ago

                What do you care? I will never have political representation.

                Oh right. You want me shut up and pretend to be happy that you have two republican parties that represent you.

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                  Why do I care? Because people who did nothing are trying to deflect the blame. People who didn’t vote are just as responsible for the situation we’re in and they need to understand that. They need to understand that not voting, especially due to a single issue, can have a very negative outcome.

                  This isn’t about you feeling represented, even though you should. That’s the problem, people keep going back to that. They are two separate issues. Not being represented in the way you want doesn’t remove your ability to vote for the best choice available.

                  You can keep insulting me, assuming what I want, and making wild accusations about my political stance. It doesn’t change the point and it makes you look like an immature, overly emotional person who can’t have a reasonable conversation. Which seems to be the case.

                  I’ve never told you to shut up.

                  I’ve never talked about my political opinions, of anything I’ve eluded to not being happy with the situation.

                  You’re just making up things and throwing them at the wall because you don’t like my opinion. But instead of engaging with the opinion and discussing it you’d rather play the victim while throwing insults.

                  I say people can still vote and you respond with “easy for you to say.” Yes, it is. Saying facts are easy. Try it. People could vote. They weren’t locked in their homes. They had the ability to vote. How is this even a debate?

                  If you want to have an actual conversation we can. If you just want to talk about me and make wild assumptions, there’s no room for a convo.

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                    I say people can still vote and you respond with “easy for you to say.” Yes, it is. Saying facts are easy. Try it. People could vote. They weren’t locked in their homes. They had the ability to vote. How is this even a debate?

                    Of course they could. They didn’t. At some point the party is gonna have to actually appeal to them. republicans turned out to vote. But despite all the pandering democrats did in order to try to get their votes, despite siding with evangelical conservatives on Gaza, despite adopting republican policy on immigration, despite offering no counter to all the anti-trans hate, despite the endorsements of two cheneys, despite all that, republicans didn’t appreciate any of their efforts and voted for trump anyway.

                    democrats know how to pursue votes. But they only pursue votes they can’t get. But hey, they bear no responsibility whatsoever because you like the direction they’re moving in. Any losses from progressives are because progressives can’t win. Any losses from centrists are because the voters they hold in withering contempt are just too stupid to vote for people who would throw them under the bus at the first hint of a raised eyebrow from one chewing tobacco enthusiast bigot.