• Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 day ago

    i think this is the only time in my life i’ve ever encountered someone who isn’t an arch conservative try to make the claim that weed contributes to sexual assault (per your argument elsewhere in the thread) and mass murder. did your parents leave you in a locked room with nothing but reefer madness for entertainment as a kid or something?

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      No, I look at the actual evidence that marijuana causes violence in things like domestic abuse (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7525024/) as well as being tied to bipolar disorder and schizophrenia (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7084484), both of which cause violent actions. I think that we should support users in trying to get off it and focus on education rather than criminalization but it is dangerous none-the-less.

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        19 hours ago

        So you also advocate making alchool illegal? (overwhelming evidence of alcohol contributing to violence, domestic of otherwise) Note how I wrote “contribute” and not cause.

        Human behavioural problems are complicated as well as their causes. Blaming them solely on substances is dishonest and steers us away from the real causes.

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          15 hours ago

          We aren’t discussing alcohol. I obviously oppose it and also support criminalizing it with fierce aggression but that’s completely irrelevant to this discussion, there are many other things I also support criminalizing

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        1 day ago

        correlation doesn’t equal causation. weed is very popular and used hundreds of millions of times every day, of course it will be co-existing with all the realities of the world. It doesn’t mean that it causes them.

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          It causes slower reaction times. People still attempt to drive/ride a bike even with alcohol so they will likely do so with marijuana. There is substantial evidence tying its usage to violence and mental illness. That is reason enough to oppose it

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              1 day ago

              Or…they could just not sell things that kill people. Sorry, I didn’t realize that every AES state is “pro child-enslavement”.

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                By your logic you would also be stripping people of a bunch of culturally significant substances used in ceremonies etc. Just take the L here you’re extremely wrong and this is just entirely a bad faith argument at this point.

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                  1 day ago

                  First off, exceptions could be made for it in such cases and secondly, protecting people’s lives are more important

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                    There are also mountains of evidence that cannabis has medicinal uses. Guess what also impairs you: Pain killers and any other number of medicines. You just are being reductive and contrarian and crusading against cannabis like a boomer on 4/20 of all days. I was half convinced this was a bit but I think you are actually this stupid.