• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      Most of these idiots believe in what the left would have the chance to propose if they hadn’t been brainwashed into believing that the left is communism is evil.

      Social security? Accessible healthcare? Being able to live a comfortable life? Working hard leading to an appropriate reward?

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        20 hours ago

        What comes to my mind is, that it’s great when people who work hard get rewarded, but that should only be an extra, not a necessity for a good life. And working too hard shouldn’t be glorified, there need to be limits.

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          19 hours ago

          Some people just want to work harder than required though (I’ve got a workaholic uncle but he just loves his job, my FiL spent his career working 60h/week in research out of choice…) and they should be rewarded accordingly, but as you say, working a full time schedule is already hard enough, it’s not normal that people can’t live comfortably doing that!

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            Our current system does not reward that extra hard work. The wealth distribution slow is barely perceptible for the bottom 97% of the population. When ~100 people hold half the country’s wealth, there’s none left for anyone else regardless of how hard you grind.

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        Don’t underestimate the appeal of racism. The biggest barrier to the expansion of the US social safety net is the fact that many, many white people would willingly vote to make themselves poorer, so long as they kept an income advantage over black people. Many white voters would rather vote themselves into penury rather than see one black person get any form of government assistance.

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          17 hours ago

          That’s all part of the brainwashing, look at what Trump sold them, the end of the elite’s hold over their lives… That’s a left side message! I’m 100% sure the vast majority of them wouldn’t care about the race of beneficiaries if they were given the chance to understand that both them and black folks wouldn’t be the ones paying for it, the actual elite would be, but media would never give them that chance.

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            17 hours ago

            It’s not brainwashing though. It’s a cynical, evil, but rational attempt at race- and gender-based privilege and affirmative action. White men enjoyed massive affirmative action for the entirety of the nation’s history up until very recently. All the good jobs were arbitrarily assigned to white men; they didn’t have to compete with the majority of the population. They had an artificially-high opportunity for success simply handed to them from birth.

            Racism and sexism are evil, but they’re also rational. This isn’t just dumb idiots being exploited with false promises. It’s a racial and gender group coming together and saying, “we’re going to come together and vote ourselves unearned privilege and opportunities. We will use the power of our votes to raise ourselves up at the expense of everyone else.”

            Racism isn’t irrational; it’s just evil. Racism and sexism are perfectly materially rational. They’re a conspiracy by one group to give themselves unearned opportunities, power, and wealth. Dismissing it as “brainwashing” just completely misses the point of racism.

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              They’re brainwashed into believing that the enemy is people like them except for their skin color and not the rich white men exploiting both them and their perceived enemy. These people aren’t born racist, but they’re born at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder.