I’ve used most of the high-end models in an unquantized format at some point or another (Xwin, Euryale, etc.) and found them generally pretty good experiences, but always seem to lack the ability to “show, not tell” in a way that a strong writer knows how to do, even when prompted to do so. At the same time, I’ve always been rather dissatisfied with a lot of quantizations, as I’ve found the degradation in quality to be rather noticeable. So up until now, I’ve been running unquantized models in 2x a100s and extending the context as far as I’m able to get away with.

Tried Goliath-120b the other day, and this absolutely stood everything on its head. Not only is it capable of stunning levels of writing and implying far more than directly stating in a way I’ve not sure I’ve seen in a model to date, but the exl quants from panchovix to get it to run in a single A100 at 9-10k extended context (about where RoPE scaling seems to universally start to break down in my experience). Best part is, if there is a quality drop (I’m using 4.85 bpw) I’m not seeing it - at all. So not only is it giving a better experience than an unquantized 70b model, but it’s doing so at about half the cost of my usual way of running these models.

Benchmarks be damned, for those willing to rent an A100 for their writing, however this model was managed I think this might be the actual way to challenge the big closed source/censored LLMs for roleplay.

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      1 year ago

      You can get preemptible A100s for $1/hr, so not exactly breaking the bank if willing to take the risk.

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      1 year ago

      It’s 2 dollars per hour man, it’s a great solution to try stuff out. Also if you already know what you need to do you won’t be needing that much time.