• static_reset@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Botafogo gave up a 16 point lead, a streak of like 18 matches unbeaten across all competitions (and I think another streak as locals) and lost 3 key matches back to back (one in a clásico against Vasco). It’s actually maddening how badly they’re fucking up this season

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      1 year ago

      When I saw this post I thought “huh close lead? But Botafogo had an impossibly big lead how can it be close?”

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      1 year ago

      The funny thing is that they are just not simply “losing”. They are losing in the most unbelievable way.

      They lost a game where they had a 3-0 lead last week. And yesterday they lost a game they were leading by 3-1… I simply cant believe this choke!!!

  • VetusMortis_Advertus@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Worth noting that number 8 (fluminense) was libertadores winner, number 11 (fortaleza) sulamericana finalist and number 14 (inter) was almost libertadores finalist being send out by fluminense in the last minutes of the semi finals. Grêmio was in serie B last year but with the power of Suarez and futevôlei are managing to fight for the title. The last time botafogo won the league was in 95, and they were 13 points clear mid season. This league is truly amazing

  • Ghostface1357@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    This title race and relegation battle is INSANE.

    Bragantino have Botafogo and Flamengo back to back, two crazy games.

    • 69cuccboi69@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      How do people feel about RB Bragantino in Brazil? Do they hate them like Leipzig in Germany or not really care?

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        1 year ago

        Indiference is the right word, but as we hate the rivals more i think neutrals would pick them to win the title race as they aren’t great rivals for anyone

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        1 year ago

        Our clubs are so poorly managed that we think RB can set a good example on how to do things correctly. We don’t really care about they being an artificial team, we have more important issues to deal with, like very bad football pitches.

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        1 year ago

        From my part, indifferent. I really dont care about them, but id much rather having them as champions, than botafogo or palmeiras.

      • Sdnz0r@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Most people feels indifference mostly because Bragantino is from a City with 170k people and has a very small amount of fans, some people call them an “artificial team”, but the only thing they really changed was the team’s logo and added “red bull” in front of the name, apart from that it’s the same team, in the same city and stadium and the same fans… they just just a decent management now.

        • Dsalgueiro@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Yes, the difference between Leipzig and Bragantino is that Bragantino had some history in Brazilian football before Red Bull.

          Bragantino had already won 1 Série B title in 1989, 1 Campeonato Paulista title in 1990 and was runner-up in the Brasileirão in 1991.

          This reduces the feeling of an artificial team.

          Fun fact to foreigners: Red Bull tried to create a team from scratch in Brazil called Red Bull Brasil. It didn’t make it out of the bottom divisions hahaha. Brazilian football is ruthless.

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              1 year ago

              The lower national divisions of the Brazilian championship are some of the hardest tournaments around: you got to travel thousands of kilometers to cities that have no airports, play in absolutely terrible stadiums in awful heat… and while in Europe you would expect the competition to be awful, as the clubs have no money, you got to remember Brazil forms a metric ton of players.

            • Dsalgueiro@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              Campeonato Paulista is difficult, but there was a time (I don’t know if it’s changed) when the rules were crazy and could cause some distortions in the perception of teams’ strength.

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    1 year ago

    If Botafogo bottle this, I will understand if some fans never watch football again.

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      1 year ago

      Our biggest lead when nobody had a game in hand was 8 points and we were still extremely disappointed. I can’t imagine how botafogo fans will recover if they really do fumble it.

      • Dsalgueiro@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Arsenal’s case is significantly less worse than Botafogo’s.

        Arsenal were being chased by City, who are a Premier League points machine. So Arsenal’s margin for error was 0.

        Botafogo is losing a championship that “nobody” wants to win. Everyone who is in contention for the title has had their crisis and gone a few rounds without a win. One example is Atlético Mineiro, who are 5 points behind Botafogo and have gone 10 games without a win in one part of the league.

        Palmeiras also went four games without a win after being eliminated from the Libertadores. Flamengo were a mess under Sampaoli…

        So yeah…

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    1 year ago

    And at the halfway point there were pundits saying the league was wrapped up already…

    5 rounds to go and the first and 4th placed teams meet this weekend, before the final stretch after the return from the international break.

    Bragantino’s match in hand is against Flamengo, and Botafogo’s is against Fortaleza if I’m not mistaken. Fortaleza are no pushover, despite being all the way down in 11th, they can climb up to 8th with their matches in hand.

    The fight for the top 4 Libertadores spots is going to be mad, and none of those top 4 or even 6 teams are guaranteed to hold on to that coveted spot while also believing they can win the whole thing.

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      1 year ago

      I mean, tbf no one was expecting what is happening atm, if Botafogo was half decent they would still be like easily 6 or 9 points ahead without considering the missing game.

      They went from 2 defeats in 19 games to 9 defeats in 32.

      They lost almost 4 times more in the last 13 games than they did in first 19.

  • TerkYerJerb@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Ffs, honestly I’m still bitter over 4 matches

    Conceding near the end against Bragantino - 3x3

    The defensive issues against Corinthians and the neglected clear penalty near the end - 4x4

    Two 1x2 losses after scoring the first goal against Santos and Atlético PR

    Well, there’s a reason we’re the fourth worst defense…

    • Dsalgueiro@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      My guy…

      Atlético Mineiro lost to Cruzeiro, Vasco and Coritiba at home. And drew twice with América Mineiro (once after taking a 2-0 lead).

      My sanity is gone.