• nocturne@sopuli.xyz
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    9 days ago

    We always imagine personal defense weapons as a hand held point shoot thingy.

    We do? What is wrong with a baseball bat? Or a sock filled with quarters?

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      9 days ago

      Both require a lot more effort to stop a threat and can be captured and disarm you at their effective range.

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        9 days ago

        If the fight starts when you’re already at a close range melee weapons have a very decent chance of coming out on top over firearms. Maybe not the sock but bats and knives definitely.

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          The loser of the knife fight dies at the scene the winner dies on the way to the hospital

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          9 days ago

          Knives have an advantage at close range at causing potentially fatal damage vs a gun, but a gun can still kill you if you don’t gain control of the muzzle. With a common pocket knife, your best bet is a fatal throat stab or slash to ending the threat because anywhere else you can’t reach or won’t act fast enough. Maybe you can disable an arm if you can separate a muscle or sever a tendon in the forearm, but we are getting into experienced knife combat there. Not that knives are relevant, we were talking bats and a sock with coins.

          A gun would easy win against someone with a bat or coins in a sock, the gunman only has to get in contact range to reduce swing force or get out of contact range. The bat or sock with coins is a 3-4ft radius of danger, the gun basically has range dependant on skill.

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            7 days ago

            A gun would easy win against someone with a bat or coins in a sock

            After being hit with a bat, I’d wager about 2 in 5 people would still even be holding their gun. If the bat hits the gun, hand, arm or head, 0 in 5 are still holding that gun.

            Now that’s assuming the bat gets a swing in, but in close quarters it’s entirely possible.