There is this wild concept called “two things existing at once”
You can simultaneously blame the fascist for their actions while also holding the liberal establishment accountable for theirs. The two are not mutually exclusive.
No, sorry, there is only one thing, and all divisions are imaginary. You. Me. The ocean. Alpha centauri. The concept of corrugation. These are all the same thing.
Since we’re on the topic of nuance, would you also say it is possible to support the liberal establishment in defeating facism while also pushing for change within the party?
No, I wouldn’t, explicitly because of the nuanced differences between leftist ideology and the right-wing, neoliberalist establishment that make them fundamentally oppositional. Their interests as owning class citizens means they have fundamentally vested interests that are diametrically oppositional to our interests as working class, and will never truly change beyond offering mild concessions to prevent systemic collapse. If we want left wing progress, it won’t be from within the current party. We need a fundamentally new party that actually holds the interests of the working class at priority.
Though, personally, as an anarchist, I do not believe change will come from within the system. It is structurally designed to force internal actors to capitulate to the interests of the economy, essentially tying their interests to the strength of the capitalist economy as a means to strengthen or maintain their own political power once in a seat if authority. Thus, will never be allowed through internal means to exert the will of the working class.
That isn’t to say we shouldn’t build dual power to protect our interests, just that our focus should be at local and state level, not the federal. It doesn’t matter what the federal agency does or says, they still have to be able to enforce their rule. If the local communities are banded together so that when push comes to shove, we can actually do some shoving of our own, they won’t be able to enforce their authority over us.
There is this wild concept called “two things existing at once”
You can simultaneously blame the fascist for their actions while also holding the liberal establishment accountable for theirs. The two are not mutually exclusive.
No, sorry, there is only one thing, and all divisions are imaginary. You. Me. The ocean. Alpha centauri. The concept of corrugation. These are all the same thing.
Since we’re on the topic of nuance, would you also say it is possible to support the liberal establishment in defeating facism while also pushing for change within the party?
No, I wouldn’t, explicitly because of the nuanced differences between leftist ideology and the right-wing, neoliberalist establishment that make them fundamentally oppositional. Their interests as owning class citizens means they have fundamentally vested interests that are diametrically oppositional to our interests as working class, and will never truly change beyond offering mild concessions to prevent systemic collapse. If we want left wing progress, it won’t be from within the current party. We need a fundamentally new party that actually holds the interests of the working class at priority.
Though, personally, as an anarchist, I do not believe change will come from within the system. It is structurally designed to force internal actors to capitulate to the interests of the economy, essentially tying their interests to the strength of the capitalist economy as a means to strengthen or maintain their own political power once in a seat if authority. Thus, will never be allowed through internal means to exert the will of the working class.
That isn’t to say we shouldn’t build dual power to protect our interests, just that our focus should be at local and state level, not the federal. It doesn’t matter what the federal agency does or says, they still have to be able to enforce their rule. If the local communities are banded together so that when push comes to shove, we can actually do some shoving of our own, they won’t be able to enforce their authority over us.
Not if their past or current behavior is any indication.