• FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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      Because Toyota invested a lot into hydrogen instead of EV, and they need to recuperate at least some of it.

      • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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        Honestly I’m glad that somebody is exploring other environmentally friendly alternatives too, nothing wrong with having options.

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          Kind of? Hydrogen can be environmentally friendly, but EVs have big advantages:

          • Creating and burning hydrogen is way less efficient than EVs (almost an order of magnitude)
          • Hydrogen is much cheaper to create in environmentally unfriendly ways (using natural gas etc.)
          • Unless we have massive overproduction of power, the additional energy can be better used to de-carbonify other processes with larger impact
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            That’s why generating hydrogen during off-peak hours from a nuclear power plant will be very beneficial. It may be less efficient but way better for the environment then lithium

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              You still have all the transport and storage costs associated with hydrogen. I’d need to see a study that actually determines the environmental impact of lithium to believe you.

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        They’ve invested heavily into a partnership with Panasonic to build solid state batteries too . They hand just spread their risk

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      While most car companies initially believed liion batteries isnt ready for the market, and wanted to wait for a more safe and dense battery tech to hit market (solid state battery), toyota invested in hydrogen. Then Tesla took the bullet and sort of went against thr grain and created the liion based evs, and the rest of the companies are scrambling to catch up due to the demand for them.

      Any push for hydrogen is because toyota invested into it and doesnt want for it to go to waste.

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        It’s not just Toyota that invested in the tech, a bunch of other big names did as well. Hydrogen makes sense for everyone who doesn’t live in cities.

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          How do you figure? Everyone who doesn’t live in big cities has the ability to charge an EV overnight, or in half an hour when road tripping. Absolutely none of them live within hundreds of miles of hydrogen refueling station.

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            Unless you have a quick charge at your house, or live in an area with one, you’re not getting 30min quick charge at all. I’m 50 miles from the capital city in my state and we don’t have any quick charge stations here. Anywhere. You really seem to be underestimating the size of the USA.

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      Because some companies just can’t get rid of the idea of ICEs. And they don’t like that their expertise in making high-quality ICEs doesn’t give them much benefit in making electric cars. So they prefer hydrogen to win over electric otherwise they’ll have a very hard time competing against newcomers.

      In my opinion, it’s dinosaurs clinging to their old ways while the asteroid looms large in the sky.

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        If there is an asteroid in the sky then everyone dies. Not just the “dinosaurs”. This is not a good analogy