They said what I did is not real work. Entrepreneurship is not real work, real work is to get a job. So, according to them I never tried anything or did any real work.
The counter to that is a job is for money. So long as you made some money, you did real work. How you made that money or what you did making that money so long as not immoral or illegal is nobody’s business (even immorality could be nobody’s business as long as you aren’t eating babies or a terrorist)
If you made no money at all, then the counter is you were learning either learning how to sell or learning how to build or so on. If you made no money until 35 then their criticism of you is somewhat valid (everyone should be able to support themselves at a certain point) and you will have to make money in some way shape or form (or get off their teat) if they don’t want you using their money
Start referring to them as “useless eaters” and “beggars”. Too incompetent and stupid to make their own work, they’re always depending on others to provide work for them. They’re servants and slaves. Rich or poor, no man tells you when you get a day off off or the time to see a doctor. They can be stupid and happy depending on others for their meals. You prefer to go find your own, even if its harder. Ask them how they like being in someones pocket or having to snap-to whenever a real adult enters the room.
I mean, honestly, it depends what you did and why you failed. There are many so called entrepreneurs that really are just lazy people that try everything to keep being lazy.
However, if you did actually put together a business, spent significant time on it, either started to develop a product, opened a store, sold something that maybe made you some money, and you just couldn’t sustain it for one reason or another, then yea it was real work. They are just hurt because they say you doing something they wanted, but are too afraid to do themselves. And next time you run a company, they will want in, but then you can remind them it’s not real work and they can keep doing what they do for the pittance their boss gives them.
Don’t expect people who aren’t entrepreneurs to understand. You actually worked (because there’s no one else, no system or bureaucracy to fall back on). Sure, taking a comfortable W2 has its merits, but entrepreneurship is truly being in the arena — for better or worse — you experience all the victories and the defeats, and that’s what life is about. People who work a W2 for their whole lives, nothing against them, but you have to wonder if they’ve ever truly lived?
They’re right, but also wrong. What you did was much harder, and you learned more lessons than anyone in a “real” job. Keep your head up, and surround yourselves with people who are positive and help you grow, not tear you down.
This is the risk you take when you take the road less traveled. You need to accept that a lot of people won’t believe in you for following your own path and not the one that society has paved for you.
Your family cares about you and they want you to be successful by society’s standards and want you to fit in. That’s normal.
What you’ve attempted to accomplish is different, scary, mysterious, and risky. People don’t like the unknown and try to protect those they love from being harmed by the unknown, and that’s what you’re experiencing. They think that by making you feel shame for not following what they think is the safest path, they can get you back on track.
It’s your life, live it how you want. If you become successful in your endeavors, the same people who doubted you will tell everyone they know how “I couldn’t believe it! I never thought he could do it.” And then try to attach their ego to your success. People suck—but the most intelligent ones respect you for who you are and not whether you fit into some mold that society has created for you.
Come up with a way to turn their humiliation into a joke and make the conversation fun and less focused on their binary judgement of “whether you’re successful” or not. It’s a lot like distracting a dog with belly scratches when they’re being possessive and weird about a bone/toy. Dumb people are like dogs, unfortunately.
I got this for the first 7 years in business. Now 10 years in I make more than anyone in my family ever has and no one can deny what I have built. An entrepreneur sees what others cant. You gotta stick to it long time, theres no other path to living a free life in my opinion.
The only way to convince them is to succeed. Trying to convince them based on the time and effort YOU know you put in is a waste of time. Do your best to ignore it and keep on trucking
Asap rocky has a short video clip where he says how you gonna hate someone for trying? For trying? Since when did it not become cool to try? Fucking losers.
I say be proud of it. Through failure we still learn lessons and im sure if you sit down and reflect you can take away things from the present situation to help better yourself or the next thing you try in the future
Outside noise can infiltrate our minds … especially family’s opinions they can cut deep. I’d advise try to filter it out as hard as it is and I wish you well in your next endeavors.
I’ve been doing “real work” all my life and it’s gotten me nowhere. You will absolutely be doubted and laughed at every step of the way until you make it. Fuck everybody and fuck their opinions. Pull yourself up and try again.
All the richest people in the world own businesses. Most of the everyday rich people are business owners. Ask them to explain how that works since it’s not real work
I hate to break it to you, but your family is toxic. Family can be toxic - I was in a similar situation and I had to swallow this extremely bitter pill.
Unless you have a good personal network, it takes years to succeed in business. It’s great you tried, and don’t give up. Start something again.This time spend less money up front and try and make money.
Business is about perseverance more than anything else. And negative people will dissuade you from achieving your goals.
I’m guessing none of them (your family) have actually tried setting up their own business?
I would ignore the lot of them and keep going with your entrepreneurship venture and learn from your last venture. Experience is king and the more you do this and the longer you do, the better you’ll be the next time.
Someone’s already mentioned it, but don’t seek approval from people. Measure your progress based on your last ventures and your own self improvement.
It shouldnt really bother you unless u believe them. If anything it should motivate u even more.
Entrepenuers are literally part of the economy. Its not real work its actually realer and harder, higher risk and higher possible rewards.
What are their arguments against it? It shouldnt be difficult nowadays to dismantle those arguments.
Are you aware that these people are just fucking haters? They actually WANTED you to fail bc it makes them feel better about their own life decisions. They spent their lives being slaves to the timeclock, and you went out and tried to break the mold. Well…they can’t have that, lol. The entrepreneur is smart enough to realize that paying others to do work for them, is the only way to cash them big checks. The caveat, is its not easy to do.
They actually WANTED you to fail bc it makes them feel better about their own life decisions.
How do you know that? I swear, it must be a reddit thing to know people’s motives to an absolute degree while also knowing nothing about them. Do all redditors have such horrible parents that they project onto everything they touch?
They said what I did is not real work. Entrepreneurship is not real work, real work is to get a job. So, according to them I never tried anything or did any real work.
Then they’re idiots. You can still love them though.
It’s because your a dopamine dandy… In all seriousness I don’t know what I’ve done and how much work you’ve put in
The counter to that is a job is for money. So long as you made some money, you did real work. How you made that money or what you did making that money so long as not immoral or illegal is nobody’s business (even immorality could be nobody’s business as long as you aren’t eating babies or a terrorist)
If you made no money at all, then the counter is you were learning either learning how to sell or learning how to build or so on. If you made no money until 35 then their criticism of you is somewhat valid (everyone should be able to support themselves at a certain point) and you will have to make money in some way shape or form (or get off their teat) if they don’t want you using their money
Money makes the world go around
Prove em wrong start again never quit
Creative new Business is some of the hardest things to get off the ground and therefore also the most rewarding.
Don’t give up. Most ventures fail. Just get back in the saddle and try again
No offense OP but your family members saying this are a bunch of idiots.
A job was generated by “entrepreneurs” - so what are they thinking the job came from? The government??
Start referring to them as “useless eaters” and “beggars”. Too incompetent and stupid to make their own work, they’re always depending on others to provide work for them. They’re servants and slaves. Rich or poor, no man tells you when you get a day off off or the time to see a doctor. They can be stupid and happy depending on others for their meals. You prefer to go find your own, even if its harder. Ask them how they like being in someones pocket or having to snap-to whenever a real adult enters the room.
I mean, honestly, it depends what you did and why you failed. There are many so called entrepreneurs that really are just lazy people that try everything to keep being lazy.
However, if you did actually put together a business, spent significant time on it, either started to develop a product, opened a store, sold something that maybe made you some money, and you just couldn’t sustain it for one reason or another, then yea it was real work. They are just hurt because they say you doing something they wanted, but are too afraid to do themselves. And next time you run a company, they will want in, but then you can remind them it’s not real work and they can keep doing what they do for the pittance their boss gives them.
Don’t expect people who aren’t entrepreneurs to understand. You actually worked (because there’s no one else, no system or bureaucracy to fall back on). Sure, taking a comfortable W2 has its merits, but entrepreneurship is truly being in the arena — for better or worse — you experience all the victories and the defeats, and that’s what life is about. People who work a W2 for their whole lives, nothing against them, but you have to wonder if they’ve ever truly lived?
And their authority for this judgment is…?
Have you tried just slapping AI on the end of it and hitting up a16z?
Ask them who they think they work for doing a job? Without enterpreneurs there wouldn’t be any economy or any job apart from government ones
They are defeated sad people who are happy you failed because your success would make clear their own mundane ambitionless lives
Rest and recharge and revise and go again.
So their bosses (owners of company) who make several times more than them aren’t doing real work? Yup, totally makes sense 😅😂
Well those people wouldnt have these real jobs if it wasnt for entrepreneurship to begin with
You know if you put in hard work or not. You might’ve or not. Don’t listen to others.
They’re right, but also wrong. What you did was much harder, and you learned more lessons than anyone in a “real” job. Keep your head up, and surround yourselves with people who are positive and help you grow, not tear you down.
This is the risk you take when you take the road less traveled. You need to accept that a lot of people won’t believe in you for following your own path and not the one that society has paved for you.
Your family cares about you and they want you to be successful by society’s standards and want you to fit in. That’s normal.
What you’ve attempted to accomplish is different, scary, mysterious, and risky. People don’t like the unknown and try to protect those they love from being harmed by the unknown, and that’s what you’re experiencing. They think that by making you feel shame for not following what they think is the safest path, they can get you back on track.
It’s your life, live it how you want. If you become successful in your endeavors, the same people who doubted you will tell everyone they know how “I couldn’t believe it! I never thought he could do it.” And then try to attach their ego to your success. People suck—but the most intelligent ones respect you for who you are and not whether you fit into some mold that society has created for you.
Come up with a way to turn their humiliation into a joke and make the conversation fun and less focused on their binary judgement of “whether you’re successful” or not. It’s a lot like distracting a dog with belly scratches when they’re being possessive and weird about a bone/toy. Dumb people are like dogs, unfortunately.
I got this for the first 7 years in business. Now 10 years in I make more than anyone in my family ever has and no one can deny what I have built. An entrepreneur sees what others cant. You gotta stick to it long time, theres no other path to living a free life in my opinion.
You can say them that in Finland the word Entrepreneur means literally ”The one that try”.
The only way to convince them is to succeed. Trying to convince them based on the time and effort YOU know you put in is a waste of time. Do your best to ignore it and keep on trucking
Asap rocky has a short video clip where he says how you gonna hate someone for trying? For trying? Since when did it not become cool to try? Fucking losers.
I say be proud of it. Through failure we still learn lessons and im sure if you sit down and reflect you can take away things from the present situation to help better yourself or the next thing you try in the future
Outside noise can infiltrate our minds … especially family’s opinions they can cut deep. I’d advise try to filter it out as hard as it is and I wish you well in your next endeavors.
Entrepreneurship is not for the feint of heart. Fuck what they think just try to ignore it. If/when you make it, suddenly they will all want handouts
Entrepreneurship is the backbone of American job making. What a dumb attitude your family has.
I’ve been doing “real work” all my life and it’s gotten me nowhere. You will absolutely be doubted and laughed at every step of the way until you make it. Fuck everybody and fuck their opinions. Pull yourself up and try again.
god i hate these people. why is that idiotic thought so common?
You’re only a real entrepreneur if you failed (many, many times).
All the richest people in the world own businesses. Most of the everyday rich people are business owners. Ask them to explain how that works since it’s not real work
Fuck them. We have the opposite parents. Mine calls me a loser because I got a job and not a entrepreneur.
This is a poor mentality, you keep doing what you doing.
35 is not really very old, you have a lot of time still
Dont listen to them
I hate to break it to you, but your family is toxic. Family can be toxic - I was in a similar situation and I had to swallow this extremely bitter pill.
Unless you have a good personal network, it takes years to succeed in business. It’s great you tried, and don’t give up. Start something again.This time spend less money up front and try and make money.
Business is about perseverance more than anything else. And negative people will dissuade you from achieving your goals.
I’m guessing none of them (your family) have actually tried setting up their own business?
I would ignore the lot of them and keep going with your entrepreneurship venture and learn from your last venture. Experience is king and the more you do this and the longer you do, the better you’ll be the next time.
Someone’s already mentioned it, but don’t seek approval from people. Measure your progress based on your last ventures and your own self improvement.
All the best!
It shouldnt really bother you unless u believe them. If anything it should motivate u even more. Entrepenuers are literally part of the economy. Its not real work its actually realer and harder, higher risk and higher possible rewards.
What are their arguments against it? It shouldnt be difficult nowadays to dismantle those arguments.
Are you aware that these people are just fucking haters? They actually WANTED you to fail bc it makes them feel better about their own life decisions. They spent their lives being slaves to the timeclock, and you went out and tried to break the mold. Well…they can’t have that, lol. The entrepreneur is smart enough to realize that paying others to do work for them, is the only way to cash them big checks. The caveat, is its not easy to do.
How do you know that? I swear, it must be a reddit thing to know people’s motives to an absolute degree while also knowing nothing about them. Do all redditors have such horrible parents that they project onto everything they touch?
I say this while typing on reddit, sure.
Is “real work” supposed to be the goal?
No one truly successful became that way without some failures along the way.