• jj4211@lemmy.world
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      Way way too much stock is placed in that study.

      For one, their total sample size was only 323 events, only 3 of which met the “3.5%” level. So the statement that change is inevitable based on only 3 instances is really crazy.

      Further, none of those three instances had participants thinking that 3.5% was some sort of goal, it was a correlation. So now you have a lot of protestors treating 3.5% as a goal rather than some organic emergent property of the broader movement. Even if there was something inevitable about having a 3.5% participation rate when no one is aware of that metric, simply knowing of the metric can change a lot.

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      That number keeps getting thrown around but this admin dgaf. That number only works when the admin believes in human rights and when the admin cares about it’s popularity.

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        Would you say that Ferdinand Marcos believed in human rights and did not care for his popularity?

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        Turns out someone who looks like Luigi but is definitely not Luigi proved it takes only one death certificate to initiate change for scores of people

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          But nothing changed… Can you show a change in healthcare since? have acceptance rates gone up? premiums gone down?

          Nothing changed.

          Edit: Bunch of downvotes… but nobody can tell me anything that’s changed… interesting isn’t it?

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            Several health insurers reversed some of their latest shitty policies within days of the event. Like the one that would put a time limit in the anesthesia they’d pay for. That’s an immediate course change from hundred billion dollar companies.

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            Apart from all the claims that were suddenly approved or execs of other companies suddenly removing all personal info from websites?

            Fear. Nothing meaningful will change until the rich fear for their lives, and we saw just how much they’re scrambling after 1 CEO.

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              Apart from all the claims that were suddenly approved

              Source this please… To date, I still see United Healthcare at dead bottom. And rate fluctuating only nominally over the past 12 months.

              execs of other companies suddenly removing all personal info from websites?

              If you’re counting this as a meaningful change to healthcare… Then I guess you found one that I can’t contest. Congrats!

              Fear. Nothing meaningful will change until the rich fear for their lives, and we saw just how much they’re scrambling after 1 CEO.

              No, this is my point. Even with “fear” nothing changed.

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        It only works when you are near an election, and the election are coming. This administration is working on a different path: at least one year before the next election and is actively working to make sure (fair) elections might not happen anymore

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          The cited scenarios were rarely democratic in nature.

          Of course, in all the scenarios cited, there was no one telling them “get to 3.5% and things will happen”, so with everyone saying “if we get to 3.5%, things will happen”, that could itself break the “rule”, as a sort of self-denying prophecy.

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      What do you suppose happens at this magic threshold? I’ll give you a hint- it’s nothing. We still have to do the work to actually make a difference. Protesting and building momentum is good, but we can’t just wait until we hit this magic threshold and pretend that will fix everything and rest on our laurels.

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        This is the right take. There’s more that goes into than just achieving that number. It is necessary, but not sufficient.

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        This

        Anyone else remember how the Women’s March saved reproductive rights? Of course not, and now women are dying in Texas because doctors are afraid they’ll be arrested for murder if they treat them for life threatening conditions.