I see it EVERY time a foul is called. The player in question goes up to the ref and argues and even yells about it. Never have I seen it make a difference at all. What’s the point in even doing so?
As many have said, if a ref misses a call, he’s pretty unlikely to change it, unless there’s a formal challenge, but he will remember it and try to make up for it later.
When a ref blows a whistle he can’t change his call unless the head referee overalls the call.
If you talk to the referee respectfully after a call you’re Normally doing it to let them know what the other players did.
It’s not about the call, it’s about the next one…
You argue to put pressure on the refs on the next call.
idk about for a foul, but we do see it quite often for out of bounds
telling the refs what to pay attention too, refs are human they make mistakes
I mean, yeah. Just not how you’re thinking it. A player will get called for a violation and then if everyone on the team reacts a certain way, refs may consult with the other refs and they change the call. Seen it many times. Usually for like out of bounds it seems. Sometimes refs just have to make a call, even if they didn’t have a perfect view of what happened. This is reality. If the players react genuinely upset or confused, refs have and will change calls ( after consulting other refs). Most of the time, though, the players react all crazy and then the replay shows them clearly fouling someone. Players are allowed to be wrong and refs are allowed to get fed up and T them up. I hate how ever T is called soft. Players literally complain after every call — how can you not escalate things to get them to stop?
A few years ago I remember the ref made an out of bounds call or something and LeBron and AD screamed in his face until he changed it.
Kobe did
yes
Way to tell the world you don’t play ball
ITS OUR BALL AINT IT!!! ITS OUR BALL
When I played organised sport I would talk to the ref often. Although not to the detriment of my play like some of the guys in the NBA. The point is that you ask the ref for clarification on their ruling and explain your own perspective to force the ref to be consistent. Refs will never overturn a call in my experience, but they might give “makeup calls” or pay more attention the next time a situation happens.
When done well this shouldn’t be antagonistic. Which is where guys like Tatum and Luka fuck up.
I think Jordan did it once
I believe you Michael
The closest thing I can remember is Rodney Mott looking at a lane violation by Richaun Holmes when he took a free throw and not calling it and then listening to the Kings bench that Luka stepped over the three point line before the ball was released behind him and actually calling the violation.