Since upgrading from Tiger Lake to the AMD 7640U, my two biggest gripes (loud fan and short battery life) have been resolved to my satisfaction. That leaves only the more minor issues:

1. Speakers are not great. Generally not an issue since I’m usually on headphones (thank you, FW, for including the 3.5 mm headphone jack!), but when I do use the speakers, they often sound pretty muffled.
2. After two years, I have still not gotten used to using the Function keys in order to page up/page down. A six-key layout for the arrows would have been far superior.
3. Trackpad button click is still unreliable. Yes, you can tap the trackpad for the same effect, but that feels unintuitive to me and I would still greatly prefer physical mouse buttons that I can feel.

It doesn’t have buttons on trackpad like thinkpad.

Probably the touchpad and the display. Both are kinda average, so at this price probably below average. Also the edges for me on the front are a bit sharp where the keyboard and the case meet. Sometimes the speakers will buzz my esc key.

The fan curve isn’t optimized for the AMD, but that’s software.

Little things, but batch 1 and don’t regret it yet if that helps lol

• speakers suck
• no touch screen option

Literally just those two things

If they fix those (and keep releasing new updates every year with regular cadence) then I really have a dream laptop option whenever I need an upgrade

Edit: oh also… the framework logo button on the keyboard… it’s an entire keyboard button! In a prominent corner spot. What is it for? Opening the framework website? That’s just dumb. It’s a super prominent keyboard key. Find a proper use for it, or just release a utility to let us customise it as an action button which can do whatever we want. It’s super bizarre. A minor issue - but very bizarre

Battery and you really need to consider every portion of the laptop. Updating drivers, ensuring the ssd chosen is low powered, enough ram at the right timing etc.

The only reason why I would consider a framework is because of the community. I am a tinkerer and thus far, in the last 15 years kf laptop ownerships. I have never encountered a laptop that did not have an issue. Take for example the thinkpad x1 extreme gen2 that had its display brightness cut in half over a driver update that was never fixed. Lenevo in that instance never cared to fix that issue and burried it among a sea of laptops they sell. However, framework has thus far two models, and when something does work, it shows. So expect support for major issues from both framework and the community. Also, if you happen to come accross a major issue with your build such as a desing issue, you dont need to scrap the laptop on the long term. You can simply upgrade when ever another part becomes available. It is like the other redditor said, it is on the long term that it becomes interesting.

• the optional ethernet adapter sticks out a bit (the RJ45 connector would be too large otherwise)
• the earlier models have a reflective screen
• having to use the Fn key for home end pgup pgdn is more of an annoyance than I expected coming from a ThinkPad with dedicated keys
• it’s sort of spoiled me for working on other laptops

Consider it an investment, you’ll save money in the long run if you upgrade the hardware, and it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to repair. Fedora support isn’t that good according to their graph, but windows support is nice from what I’ve experienced so far with it. Maybe one criticism I have for it would be the lack of a touchscreen/stylus option? I used to own a surface and aside from the maddening hardware issues I had with it, I did enjoy stylus and touch support

I got my AMD 13 two days ago. Using Fedora 39. The most disappointing things for me so far are the touchpad (it’s nowhere near the macbook ones) and the battery life. I would absolutely pay for a higher capacity battery. On the other hand, FW is light and maybe it’s time for me to invest in a powerbank.

It’s too nice and I don’t want to put stickers on it.

Consider a laptop out of the outlet store, if price is your issue

• shits out battery faster in sleep than running
• probably is self aware of this fact, since it likes to wake itself up and cook itself in my backpack
• gaping security holes, 12th gen already abandoned in terms of bios updates (read: none)
• Awful support that reply once every 48 hours, and ask you to repeat things from the last message you sent
• keyboard scratches the screen
• loud fans
• runs hot
• framework stans are annoying
• expensive
• shipping costs take the piss (still)
• they expect you to buy new shit (so very sustainable) when they ship broken HDMI and DP ports
• many promises made that were never made good on

Battery Life and no Touchscreen. That’s kind of it to be honest.

Assuming you are talking about the new AMD 13 I would avoid windows 10. My biggest downfall was drivers install and weak wifi 6e reception. I am running windows 11 but now that everything is installed right it has been great and the wifi 6e picks up most of of the time over the 5ghz band.

The common ones I’ve seen are weak speakers, display hinges (much more infrequent), the case being made of a softer aluminum, display brightness (not quite sure why this pops up, but it does), trackpad quality, and battery life under Linux.