The ‘Real Time’ host ran down his issues with the Greta Gerwig film, while insisting “I’m not the one who’s out of step.”

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    The fact that that’s what you took from my post kind of illustrates my point. Albeit ironically.

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      Your post took an entirely feminist issue and made it about men again.

      “Did feminism leave men behind” is something that only men would ponder about.

      “I wonder if women are ready” is another can of condescending mess. Women are put in this box of patriarchy BY MEN, so instead of taking away the box and recognizing that it shouldn’t be there in the first place, you ask if women are ready to come out of it. We’re not children that you put in a timeout corner.

      You ARE Ken. In a sanctuary for Barbies, you find some rhetoric to latch onto and try to make it about your plight too.

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        The message of the film is that everyone is worse off due to patriarchy. Not just women.

        Men need to learn that meeting halfway is not a loss.

        Women need to stand ground and also invite men into a changed world.

        You’re still trying to make every night a girls night.

        The film is about feminism reaching a state of maturity and your anger here is proving to us all that my concerns are on point. I think that there are many men and yes, many women too who are not ready.

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          Are you also one of those “all lives matter” people? Women just can’t have this one thing to ourselves without you coming in mansplaining feminism to me eh?

          I did not know that I was not ready for feminism but you sure showed me. How can I ever repay you?

          You’re still trying to make every night a girls night.

          Frankly I’m okay with that right now, especially after talking to you.

          For fuck’s sake. The average man is so exhausting, and if you take this comment as “men hating” then so be it.

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            I don’t understand why you need this to be a women only issue when clearly it has to do with all of society? That’s literally a direct example of feminism leaving men behind!

            Despite your needlessly angry tone I’m still trying to understand you ok?

            WRT mansplaining: did you actually watch the film? Because I’m just commenting on what was presented there. If the movie presented feminism as a women only issue then there would be no Ken arc, the film explicitly positions these issues as shared. It’s literally the point of the whole thing. Are you just flying off the handle assuming you know what the film is about without seeing it?

            IMO asserting that men cannot comment on or take part in feminism is the antithesis of the message of the film and also just bloody minded sexism.

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              I’m not arguing with anybody else in the thread so clearly I’m fine with men taking part in discussion here.

              I’ve seen the movie but once again, thanks for assuming that I don’t know or understand anything.

              I simply disagree with your assertion that feminism leaves men behind because frankly that’s a very patriarchal way of looking at women’s rights. For once, it’s not about you (men).

              Then you follow up with that gem of women not being ready. Give me a fucking break.

              Then again, reading your post out loud to my girlfriends at gasp! girls night in gave us a big laugh. So…thanks?