I was talking with a sysadmin once who intentionally removed nano and emacs from any system he was granted access to. His explanation was “if they can’t use vim I don’t want them on my machines”
There’s a sysadmin at my place who does exactly that. He’s kind of an idiot too.
Shocked
If a sysadmin expected me to use vim for every minor config tweak, I wouldn’t want to be on their machines either.
Once you get the hang of it it’s just so much quicker for small and big tasks.
Check out vim adventures:
Or just install vimtutor and try around. The basics are pretty simple, and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
Thanks, no. At that point i use sed, grep or a GUI editor.
Brilliant! I don’t entirely disagree with that. I had vim forced on me at my old job, including actual vi on some of the more ancient systems. I got so used to it that I don’t really know how to use nano and definitely not emacs.
I never understood what the big deal was. Write. Quit. If you can’t remember that ‘w’ means write and ‘q’ means quit, I don’t know how else to help. Add in some decent options in your vimrc and it is pretty comfortable. I am in no way some guru who knows every shortcut and fancy command out there, but I like using it and it is the first thing I install on a new system.
I am not one to judge what text editor, OS, phone, car, or computer you like. You do you. If I was a sysadmin that had to deal with people who really shouldn’t be on those systems and that was an easy way to discourage people from screwing with it, then hell yeah.
Knowing VIM does not make one a better sys-admin. You can be an idiot, and still know how to drive Vi/Vim. There is FAR FAR FAR more to managing an OS and than that. If you think requiring VIM is enough to keep unknowledgeable people away from servers, you are probably the one who shouldn’t be managing servers.
I’ve been using Vim for years, cause I can’t figure out how to close it.
As a nano user, I fully agree.
EMACS is a great operating system, it only lacks a good editor.
+1 for nano. I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.
When the holy war comes, you’ll be among the first sacrifices!
Just use notepad++ with wine like any normal person do
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In the world of text editors, VIM, specifically NeoVim is the shining light. Standing at the pinnacle of creation at a height that can only be reached by zealous emacs users.
They have a learning curve through. Nano is obviously easier, but it’s also just a basic editor.
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vim and emacs are ide like text editors.
Nano, based.
If I use VI or VIM I’m going to have to kill the task because I just tried to exit and uggggghhhh why!?
:q! or :exit or :quit or ZZ…there’s lots of ways to quit Vim.
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and why should it be? vim and its bindings are extremely popular. should window managers all use alt+f4 to kill programs, just because its familiar to new users?
Yes.
