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    • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      I thought this until I actually tried windows, it just doesn’t work right ever and feels so weird and old. I wouldn’t use macos, but it’s fine, it feels competently made and for the most part makes sense.

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        10 months ago

        Yes, Windows feels old but at least is usable (10 was more usable that 11 in my opinion). MacOS feels very janky to me and you have to jump to various hoops to do basic things

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          10 months ago

          All Apple products are designed for people who don’t use technology.

          They hide the useful bits so people don’t hurt themselves.

          It’s the Duplo of computing.

          • scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            There are plenty of developers who use macs for work, me included. I mainly go with Mac for the build quality/battery life/performance though and also because my work pays for it so I don’t need to worry about the exorbitant price. I would agree that MacOS is pretty janky at times and it requires a few third party apps to be reasonable usable.

            But I’m not really sure what you mean by useful bits? I don’t feel like I’m really restricted in MacOS. If there isn’t a UI element for something, you can probably adjust it in a terminal.

            • Meldrik@lemmy.wtf
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              10 months ago

              So if I understand you correctly, it’s more about the hardware and not the software that’s appealing to you?

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                10 months ago

                Generally, yes. I like MacOS more than windows because it’s at least *nix.

                But to be honest I have no strong opinions on OS when it comes to work. I’ve used windows*/Linux/MacOS and none have stood out as far superior to get my work done faster or more efficiently.

                I use MacOS with my Mac because that’s what’s installed out of the box.

                The main things that seem to hold me back from working efficiently are programs that are required by the company to maintain their ISO accreditation like Microsoft “intune” or what ever it’s called.

                *Only when required.

          • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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            10 months ago

            What a ridiculously ignorant position to have. Do you even know how common it is for developers to run macOS?

            You’re aware that there’s Unix underneath the pretty polish as well, right?

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              10 months ago

              It is true though, developers use macs because they give you a useful unixy environment but Apple do try to keep that hidden because the people they actually market the devices to are the casual users. I find myself constantly fighting with macOS because it has decided that things must be done The Apple Way and I have to go to the forums to find out where they’re hiding the features. Obviously I’m not going to use Windows for a dev environment (I’m not a masochist), but it’s a shame that most companies can’t be bothered supporting a Linux desktop environment.

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                8 months ago

                They actually heavily target Developers with MacBook Pro, they even have a whole conference every year dedicated to developers.

                Also I think fighting with macOS is the problem, there are a few walled off things however it’s not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.

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                  8 months ago

                  I don’t mean this in an accusatory way, but did you create your account just to talk up macs? I know some people really love them, but plenty of people have serious issues with Apple’s entire philosophy. The “our way or the highway” idea is great if you want to do everything their way but when that way doesn’t work for what you want to do then that’s what rubs people the wrong way.

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                    8 months ago

                    No obviously not, I use Linux as well. I just think it’s bad to say something is awful especially when the given examples for the most part were untrue or easily solved.

                    Yeah Apple has a bit of a “this is the only way” however it does make for a very stable system. Also if their way isn’t right for you that’s fine, no reason to complain just don’t use it.

              • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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                10 months ago

                I think the recent line of MacBook Pros (M1 and onward) clearly have a focus on the professional segment - stopping the focus on very thin computers, touch bars instead of function keys and USB C ports only.

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                  8 months ago

                  I personally love those features as a developer, I don’t need every type of port pretty much just one would be enough in a perfect world we would use wireless to interface all peripherals and media items like cameras

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      10 months ago

      I’m surprised you have more upvotes than downvotes, but yeah, this is a comment that I would expect to get lots and lots of votes.

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      10 months ago

      Yup, it is simply so lost and uncontrolled that I could totally live in it and replace the garbage software with something else.