(The “Windows” slices of the pies are entirely made up by Baldur’s Gate 3, which also runs well over Linux)

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      That’s the attitude that we all need to have. Same here, if anything doesn’t work on Linux, I ain’t buying it.

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        I even got a refund from steam when rocket league lost Linux support when that one company bought it

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          Nice. You can run rocket league on heroic launcher btw. I have it through the epic store. Works flawlessly

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            Yes, it was more the principle than anything. I was terrible at that game and barely played it

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              Right there with ya. My 10 year old smokes me all the time in that game 😂

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          I didn’t bother because I got plenty of playtime from it and got it through the Steam Controller/Link bundle as well. But I did consider it since I was ticked about losing Linux support.

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      Same, since 2013.

      I’ve found that often the game is listed as not linux, but runs fine with proton anyway. So I often buy, and refund if needed.

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      That’s how I’ve been for a few years now. Windows has serious bugs that I encounter all the time that I never encounter with Linux.

      Just this week alone… screenshots stopped working, usb microphones were stuck on mute, and the taskbar crashed preventing me from using any touchpad gestures or even accessing the start menu to restart.

      The task bar was fixed with a restart but the other two issues required a reinstall of the os. I troubleshot those for like an hour without any solution.

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        I know! I have to use windows at work (IT Admin) and using powershell always makes me wish the software we need ran on Linux. Just today I needed to extract a partition image with dism and it just did nothing for half an hour before the progress bar even came up. People say that Linux is buggy but gnome gives me way less headaches than windows 11.

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          Windows unfairly gets the reputation of being more reliable than linux. I’m just waiting for my work to make one app available on Linux and then I’m switching.

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    Is this Lemmy’s version of Reddit’s “pc vs console” I’ve been seeing this a lot lately. Why are you all so obsessed with who plays on what and what their opinions are?

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      Because more people playing on Linux means more games get published for Linux, which is an outcome we want.

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        Gonna have to get in line behind consoles first. PC gamers have been around for years, still at the bottom of the list when games get published. So…what’s the point in saying “play on Linux because games also work here” when publishers don’t care?

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            Well, at least get partity with Windows. It’s unlikely to get Rockstar to launch on PC first, but it might mean more MP games work well on Linux.

            All I want is for enough people to use Linux so devs care enough to remove roadblocks for Linux, such as anti-cheat. I don’t expect Linux to overtake Windows or anything, I just want my selection to not be limited just because I’m running Linux.

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          I decline the premise of the question. No one in the thread leading to your comment said anything remotely similar to “play on Linux because games also work here”.

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          More like play on Linux because windows gets more bugs,bloat, and built in spying every version and if I had the kind of money to afford the whole collection of apple products you inevitably end up with when chosing that path, I would have had kids instead and not been dumped by my ex for being born into a poor family and failing to gain anything from working other than worse health and not even breaking even financially. Linux is free too. Free is my favourite price.

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      I just want more games to work on Linux, and more marketshare gets devs interested. I don’t care what specific people use, just that enough use Linux to grow marketshare.

      Use what you want, but I’ll encourage anyone who is interested to give it a try.

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      It’s like when you discuss music with a metalhead, it’s not that you just don’t feel anything when you listen to metal, and you don’t consider complex polyrhythms to just be objectively “better” because they’re harder to play. It’s that your music sucks ass and if it’s not the right kind of metal it also sucks ass.

      Linux can play most games, but if you like playing games that Linux doesn’t play then those games suck and you shouldn’t want to play them. That’s their perspective.

      Why do you want to play Fortnite or CoD warzone? Don’t you know kernel level anticheat is a rOoTkiT?!? (As if they could even define such a thing without resorting to just pointing at shit they don’t like and twisting the definition like a Baptist preacher trying to create theology.)

      You can’t win with these types of people, Linux can play games! And if it can’t it’s YOUR FAULT FOR NOT EXCLUSIVELY PLAYING GAMES THAT LINUX CAN PLAY.

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        Nah, you’re getting too deep into your own feelings. Most threads I’ve seen where people start talking about Linux as a viable gaming option, it’s because some commenter or the OP mentions a problem they’re facing in Windows, which is directly solved or mitigated in Linux. Also, most of the time when people recommend Linux, it comes with warnings like “it has a learning curve” and “not everything works”. The hard line Linux-or-bust types are definitely not the majority.

        Also, the very nature of Lemmy means the userbase probably skews towards more techy types who have been using Linux in their professional lives for years and have naturally come to harbor positive feelings for it. That drives the recommendation as well as anything else.

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          Whatever you say, I’ve literally had people ask me “why do you play insert game here?” When I tell them why I haven’t completely gotten off windows. It’s happened multiple times. I’m not getting in my feelings, some of you guys are just insufferable.

          I love Fedora on my old gaming laptop and arch/SteamOS kicks ass on deck, but I’m not giving up my main game that I play for socializing with my friends just because the FOSS community assigns themselves moral superiority for not being on Windows.

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      And racing sims. I was talking to someone on Bluesky and they said the lack of racing sim gear support is holding them back.

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          Yup. I guess the gist of it is, Linux is great for just general gaming, but if you’ve got something specific, it’s just not there yet. (I see a bit about VR too)

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            I just make do with running both. Of course would prefer to have everything on Linux, though.

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        +1 on sims, with so many different peripherals as well as third party software like simhub, even if a base game works on Linux, it effectively doesn’t since there is so much integration needed

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      Yeah, I’d love to get a VR headset, but there just aren’t even games to play on Linux, and the headsets with good Linux support are either expensive or hard to find.

      Hopefully that improves, I imagine it’s stopping people from switching to Linux.

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        Even the Index, Valve’s own headset has had broken functionality for years with no fixes in sight. Valve refuses to fix big stuff like the cameras, base stations not turning on, or even automatic audio switching.

        Not to mention steamvr reprojection is completely broken.

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        For me, I have been dual booting, but I have also had my linux set up for a few months now and was using it exclusively until i got my quest 3.

        I can definitely see the allure of just sticking to windows if one plays pcvr exclusively or if one just hasn’t taken the plunge into linux yet.

        I really do hope that support comes. Either officially or unofficially by a linux savant who knows this stuff.

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          Yup. One by one the papercuts are getting resolved, so hopefully it’s just a matter of time before VR support gets better. Ideally Valve gets interested again and makes another push for Linux VR (maybe some tie-in with the Deck?), otherwise we may be waiting a while.

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      It’s also heavily skewed in my case due to online hours being the only hours counted, while I use my steamdeck away from internet most of the time.

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    I’m at 50 / 50. Went 100% Linux 6 months ago and never looked back. Didn’t even bother with dual booting, it’s all in or nothing.

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    I won’t claim that it’s all flawless, because it really isn’t sometimes, but a lot of things just work. Both new games, and old ones, that don’t even work on windows to begin with.

    My biggest two showstoppers are games like Destiny, and VR titles, that unfortunately are completely unplayable because I own a Rift S.

    I still play practically everything else on Linux, and don’t see any reason to not to. I already do everything else on this os, so why would I switch

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      There’s a bunch of other things, like HDR; I don’t have a HDR monitor so I can’t say what people are missing, but I tried to mess with it in my pet-project game engine and vkSetHdrMetadataEXT just does not exist at all, and I don’t know what library or Vulkan layer could provide it.

      It matches with what I’ve heard around, although apparently KDE supports it now?

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    I kind of dig Linux Os, I find Linux users insufferable.

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      As a fellow Linux user I entirely agree. I stay off the forums as much as possible. My latest crime was uploading a tutorial on how to update the bios on certain laptop models. Got fucking roasted, even on lemmy.

      For some reason Linux forums are like stack exchange; an extremely toxic neckbeard pissing match.

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        I might have been very lucky. I’ve barely seen anything negative than when people post factually incorrect or potentially dangerous/bricking stuff.

        Though, I do keep a healthy distance from the Ubuntu and Arch forums.

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        Oh shit, that sounds extremely helpful, why did they roast you?

        I’ve been using Linux since Ubuntu 8.10 iirc, and I’m still a fucking moron at dealing with Linux so I’m always thankful for people like you.

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      Eh, you’ll get the worse of any userbase if you go to a community specifically for that OS. Go to PC Master race or whatever to see the opposite problem.

      I’ve been on Linux exclusively for something like 15 years, but I almost never bring it up. In fact, I don’t even mention my distro of choice unless it’s directly relevant, and if asked I recommend something different (I recommend Mint Debian edition because I’ve heard it’s very user friendly).

      I also find many people in communities like this insufferable as well, so I spend my time trying to tone them down a bit with comments like “Linux isn’t for everyone, but it’ll always be there if you decide to give it another try.” I use Linux because it works better for me than Windows, yet many here make it a religion or something. It’s kinda weird.

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    Linux Gamers - “Sure am stoked that gaming on Linux has gotten so good, finally don’t feel like I need to keep Windows”

    Randos - “Wow, such copium! It didnt work for my specific use case! Linux users are so obnoxious!”

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      I think it’s interesting most of your play time is on the Steam Deck, but you play a bunch of games on Linux. Are you just testing settings then?

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        I think it’s a lot of the same game on both, but some I only played on the deck. Some I switched back to desktop for sections where inconsistent frame rate was wrecking me like GoW Valkyries. Dave the diver was entirely deck. Also have a laptop but vulkan support is incomplete on haswell so some games were launched and crashed if they didn’t have opengl.

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    Just Linux for me…I haven’t used windows since windows 7. I’m probably going to sell my steam deck though because it mostly just sits in the case on top of my computer (where I usually play since my computer is plugged into my 50 inch bedroom TV. But the stream deck is nice and fun to play with.

    1000000055

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      I’m the opposite, my computer is in the basement and my Steam Deck is next to my bed, so ~75% of my playtime is on the Deck.

      It’s a cool device, but it’s not for everyone.

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    What cope. I still run into countless compatibility issues which bars Linux from daily use for me. Stop trying to downplay proton compatibility, it just makes your arguments appear disingenuous.

    I would fully switch over to Linux in a heartbeat if there was no compatibility problems.

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      Even if it had full comparability, you won’t have switched to linux. You don’t need reasons to do it, except your own wish

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      Eh, works fine for me. I have a lot of games to choose from, so I’m really not lacking on selection.

      That said, I totally get it if it doesn’t work for the things you need. Use what works. Linux works better for me than Windows, so it’s what I use.

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    I was very confused because this chart didn’t show up for me… then I realized that I’m 100% Linux and showing it would’ve been pointless.

    Still, I’m very proud of it. Barring some games with arbitrary rootkit restrictions (suck my ass, Tim) and Adobe products (but Adobe can burn and die, so whatever), I’ve been able to completely transition to Linux.

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        They don’t anymore unfortunately. The best solution I’ve seen is using winapps for Linux, but even that relies on a Windows VM. Worth looking into though still imo, it’s how I use the latest version of Excel for my work.

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        The last time I tried, most applications started and didn’t crash, but were mostly unusable. GPU acceleration was also right out.