• LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
        15·
        1 year ago

        And yeah quite lost cuz it turns out the only reason I saw this post was because I was browsing by “everything,” I thought I was browsing in my subscriptions. Am so lost.

        • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          92·
          1 year ago

          lol 🤣… yeah, has happened to me while, for some reason, I’ve started browing some community and just forgot that I was in it, instead of my feed, like “boy, they sure overdid the meme posts today” 🤣🤣🤣.

  • force@lemmy.world
    61·
    1 year ago

    i can’t tell if this is serbocroatian or slovenian or something else but i’m too afraid to ask

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      61·
      1 year ago

      Serbocroatian is long gone, it was a construct made up back in Yugoslavia. It was basically Serbian written in latin (basically… there were some things from Croatian, but very little).

      It’s Croatian. Serbian and Croatian are similar, but Serbian is written in Cyrillic, while Croatian in Latin.

      • force@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        A majority of linguists consider Serbocroatian to be one language, there are many distinct dialects (with different countries having different standards). The writing system is irrelevant, the writing system isn’t the language (this can be seen in Mongolian, Tibetan, Hindustani, Persian, Kazakh, previously Azerbaijani, and contemporary Chinese languages as well). Also you can write Serbian in Latin script (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Serbian)

        They are no less mutually intelligible than what are considered different dialects of other languages. In fact as someone who can read Russian & Polish I can understand a good amount of written Serbocroatian with trouble (it’s a lot harder than reading something like Ukrainian due to linguistic distance), it’s significantly closer between Serbian & Croatian varieties. Often people on media/politics pretend not to understand the other though due to mutual hatred from nationalism.

        I would like to spend a lot of time on the language one day, I haven’t done much besides read some from grammar books on it. I like it a lot.

        • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yes, you can write Serbian in latin, but not on any documents… as in, you can do it, but informally.

          You are correct about the politics part. Serbs and Croats understand each other perfectly, so do Bosnisnas. The odd balls out were Slovenian and Macedonian, with Slovenian (IMO) being a little bit harder to decypher than Macedonian.

          • MeanEYE@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 year ago

            Government issued documents are in Cyrillic by default in Serbia, but official documents can be written in Latin as well. It’s not forbidden to use either of the alphabets. Most of the ads, signs and similar material are written indeed in Latin.

            • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              For “backwards compatibility” I presume… and also catering to Croats and Bosnians that live in Serbia.

              • MeanEYE@lemmy.world
                2·
                1 year ago

                I’d say it’s a habit now more than anything. It’s also more convenient not having to configure computer and phone, etc. Latin has become dominant. Everyone still learns both and has to know how to write in print and cursive. But no one writes print Cyrillic by hand anymore, or at least very few. I still prefer cursive Cyrillic to anything else, because it flows better. But print Latin is what most kids write these days from what I’ve seen. There has been suggestions of government incentive to keep Cyrillic. Proposal was to give some tax deductions if companies use Cyrillic for most things. Probably didn’t go far. But it is a cultural heritage worth keeping.

                • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Cyrillic is a must here (Macedoia). Sure, we text and may write in Latin (not all the time though), but other than that, yeah, we still use Cyrillic.

                  I just text in Latin. Can’t really get accustomed to the Cyrillic keboard, 4 more letters and my fingers are thick 😂.

                  Russians are die hard though, they don’t write Russian in Latin… ever 😂.

          • force@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 year ago

            Ye AFAIK Slovenian is considered a very different language by most and Macedonian is significantly more grammatically similar to Bulgarian. I’m not very sure about Macedonian tho.

            • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              Yes, gramatically, it’s similar to Bulgarian (we don’t have cases like the others, we solve that with adverbs and adjectives), but in terms of words, it’s similar to Serbian and Croatian. Regarding sentence structure, yes, it’s similar to Bulgarian, with emphasis sounding more like Serbian or Croatian (Bulgarian sounds more like Russian).

              Slovenia was under Austro-Hungary during the last 5 centuries (20th century excluded), so they have a lot of German (Austrian) lingo in their vocabulary, plus sentence formation is also kind of confusing (for me at least).

    • winety
      2·
      1 year ago

      It’s not Czech. I’d say it’s Croatian.

    • 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      sudo cream… as in you put the cream on your toddlers when they misbehave, so you get sudo privilges with them (super user do, it’s the same as executing commands as root, i.e. you can do anything and everything, it’s the highest level of permission). For example, sudo behave. It’s often used if regular behave just doesn’t cut it 😂.